Spooney review 4e

[Alzrius]

I pretty much agree with what The Spoony One said about 4E, save for where he says he prefers it to 3E. I'm aware that people have different tastes, but how anyone could come to that conclusion is beyond me, particularly regarding the points he brought up as being negatives in 4E.

 

[Hussar]

I didn't catch much positive, aside from at the end, where he says he still prefers AD&D, but he would play 4e over 3e, else I must say that he sounded pretty unhappy about a lot of things.

Didn'tcha get the memo. Any negative review is automatically gospel and fair handed, and any positive review is automatically fanbois crap.

Come on, get with the program.

 

[Jack99]

Uh? He outright says several times that he enjoyed playing 4e and found the combat incredibly fun and deep, and even stated at the end that he'll probably homebrew it a bit and play it.

Is this bizarro space logic again, where anyone who doesn't like anything about 4e must HATE EVERYTHING RAAWWWWWR

No not at all. Personally I couldn't care less what other people think about 4e, since the only thing that matters for me is what I and my 7 players think. However, I do think he seems to not like quite a lot (balancing of classes, the powers, rituals, skill challenges and skills) just to mention a couple of those that he mentions) of things about 4e. Nothing more. And I would appreciate it if you dropped the juvenile and confrontational attitude, it really brings very little to any discussion.

 

[The Little Raven]

He didn't know the game well enough to get to those though.

Yeah, that's what I picked up from it, as well. His D&D-fu (of all editions) seems rather weak.

 

[Dragon Snack]

I much prefer his rantings on movies...

 

[BryonD]

Didn'tcha get the memo. Any negative review is automatically gospel and fair handed, and any positive review is automatically fanbois crap.

Come on, get with the program.

Pretty cool how such a teeny tiny minority (certainly way to small to call a divide) is so firmly in control of the program.
I am power.

 

[LightPhoenix]

Honestly, I turned if off as soon as he said "the first thing that I think a lot of people don't like." That's a classic statement to try and convince someone they are in the majority. However, I highly doubt he has anything but anecdotal evidence on the matter. That said, the reason I turned it off is because if he can't even own up to his own opinion, it's not worth listening to.

 

[Hussar]

Pretty cool how such a teeny tiny minority (certainly way to small to call a divide) is so firmly in control of the program.
I am power.

Just calling it as I see it.

I start a thread with a comic from Full Frontal Nerdity and get attacked as edition war baiting. Yet, this thread gets started, by the guy who accused me of edition war baiting, with an obviously slanted and biased review, and we're supposed to nod and stroke our beards and say what a great review this is.

It's been going on for months now. If a review is even slightly positive, it's fanbois crap, but, if the review is negative, then it's gospel.

Same old same old.

BTW, trolling around to follow me from thread to thread isn't cool dude. Just put me on ignore if I bother you that much.

 

[LostSoul]

What I don't understand is, if combat is tactically deep, how are all the classes the same? Shouldn't the powers you choose have an effect on the tactics you employ?

 

[billd91]

What I don't understand is, if combat is tactically deep, how are all the classes the same?

The same way wargames can be tactically deep even if dealing with a scenario where there little differentiation in units for the Order of Battle. You don't necessarily need a lot of differentiation to have plenty of interesting tactical options, particularly if the opponents are interesting and varied, and so is the terrain.