Well, I Went Ahead and Did It

[Fyrestryke]

Well, you don't have to buy the books just to try it out. I've been thinking of just nabbing the first adventure and running that for everyone with the pre-gen characters just to "get our feet wet".

Anyone up for that sometime?

 

[BobProbst]

Well, you don't have to buy the books just to try it out. I've been thinking of just nabbing the first adventure and running that for everyone with the pre-gen characters just to "get our feet wet".

Anyone up for that sometime?

Yes.

 

[InzeladunMaster]

Well, you don't have to buy the books just to try it out. I've been thinking of just nabbing the first adventure and running that for everyone with the pre-gen characters just to "get our feet wet".

Anyone up for that sometime?

Honestly, I'd rather run the game - but without a pre-printed first adventure or pre-gen characters - to see how it works.

 

[Grimhelm]

Honestly, I am not terribly interested in the system. 3rd edition solved many of my complaints from previous years, and I find it to be completely adequate to the task. Once again, a system does not make characters or adventures, people and players do. I don't care if we are playing D&D 7000.5, I am going to have fun because I can be my character and I will find a way to accomplish the tasks at hand.

 

[APewty]

I'm too pragmatic to buy into a new system just because it's new. There's nothing wrong with buying everything you can afford, but I've just bought two 3.5 books over the last several months and that $45+ is wasted if I now start using another system.

Of course, it's not my choice what the group plays but I would think the new system would have to be better than the old system by a large margin just to consider it.

Or, perhaps folks are just bored of the old system and want something different?

 

[InzeladunMaster]

Of course, it's not my choice what the group plays but I would think the new system would have to be better than the old system by a large margin just to consider it.

Or, perhaps folks are just bored of the old system and want something different?

I completely agree with you. I bought them just because I want to see it, they were deeply discounted by Amazon, and if I want to do further RPG writing, I will have to know the new system. So, for me, buying the books is an investment toward future earnings (I made enough money on my first book for Mongoose that it paid me back for all my RPG purchases since I was 13, so gaming has been reasonably profitable for me).

At this time, I don't intend to switch systems, but there is no harm in trying it out! Indeed, since I am likely to be able to generate some income from it, it is to my benefit to at least know how it works and plays.

 

[Fyrestryke]

At this time, I don't intend to switch systems, but there is no harm in trying it out!

That is all I'm proposing guys. Just a one shot to try out the new system. We've got people who've seen it and think it looks super awesome from a cursory glance, people who've seen it and don't like it, people who haven't seen it and like it and people who haven't seen it and don't like it. We can't honestly make a decision on it without playing it at least once. I'm in the first category I listed above, but when I play it...I might not like it.

So, when IM has sufficient time to digest the material and mayhaps we need to take a short break from the new campaign (I'm talking months in the future here, not in a couple of weeks)...then, we can run a session of 4E to try it out. No one else in the group needs to make a financial investment to do that. We have three copies of the books and that should be plenty to have a couple of sessions. Heck, we could even re-envision/convert our new characters and run them with 4E rules for a session or two. But, we will figure all that out...later.

 

[InzeladunMaster]

We've got people who've seen it and think it looks super awesome from a cursory glance, people who've seen it and don't like it, people who haven't seen it and like it and people who haven't seen it and don't like it.

And we have those that haven't seen it, but like some things heard about it (combat is better; grappling is less clunky), but dislikes other things one has heard about it (no multiclassing, more miniature based, more computer game-like play).

 

[Fyrestryke]

And we have those that haven't seen it, but like some things heard about it (combat is better; grappling is less clunky), but dislikes other things one has heard about it (no multiclassing, more miniature based, more computer game-like play).

Right you are.

 

[InzeladunMaster]

One other thing bothers me about 4E - the art.

The art between AD&D (original), AD&D 2nd Edition, and D&D 3rd Edition is distinct from each other. No one would confuse art from 1e and 2e or 3e and so on. However the art between 3e and 4e seems (to me) to be the same. The same artists, the same style. Although I am fond of 3e art (and 1e art), I would have given 4e a different art style to further differentiate it.