D&D 5E (2024) Rank 5e skills from most useful (1) to least useful (18)

[CreamCloud0]

there is more opportunities to jump, climb, swim, break stuff open than balancing on a rope or ice skating in average campaign.

i'm not saying that, i'm saying that i've often heard people claiming stories about people who try to justify being able to jump and climb and otherwise use acrobatics in place of a bunch of stuff athletics is meant to cover.

 

[FrogReaver]

I don't agree. The differences are distinct enough and we already have too much blending of skills. Getting rid of one more wouldn't be a good idea.

What’s distinct about them?

 

[FrogReaver]

Sometimes I do to, but then I realized that a scholar studying plants and animals may not know how to set a trap or make shelter when lost in inhospitable wilderness.

Can you name one thing someone proficient with nature should be able to do that someone proficient in survival shouldn’t be able to?

 

[FrogReaver]

I believe that if you have 2 skills and 1 does everything the other does and more than you don’t actually need 2 skills.

 

[Maxperson]

What’s distinct about them?

I've already said more than once. Survival doesn't cover anything you might possibly need to know to survive something. It's just hazards, hunting, building fires, etc. Specific knowledge about natural things is Nature.

 

[Maxperson]

Can you name one thing someone proficient with nature should be able to do that someone proficient in survival shouldn’t be able to?

Identify a Narrowleaf Cottonwood tree.

 

[Maxperson]

I believe that if you have 2 skills and 1 does everything the other does and more than you don’t actually need 2 skills.

One doesn't, unless you add the second one to it. As written, they are two distinctly different skills.

 

[FrogReaver]

Identify a Narrowleaf Cottonwood tree.

And why would a play care to identify a narrowleaf cottonwood tree?

 

[Maxperson]

And why would a play care to identify a narrowleaf cottonwood tree?

You asked for A thing. Identifying which mushroom is poisonous is also something Survival cannot do, but Nature can. Knowledge of plants is by RAW a part of the Nature skill.

 

[FrogReaver]

I've already said more than once. Survival doesn't cover anything you might possibly need to know to survive something.

Of course it does. It’s all about outdoorsy survival.

It's just hazards, hunting, building fires, etc. Specific knowledge about natural things is Nature.

Knowledge about natural things that would aid in survival is survival.

Like identifying signs that an owlbear is lives nearby. Kind of required to know what an owlbear is to do that. And despite it being lore/knowledge about owlbears that tells us this it’s specifically a survival example.