Necromancer Games NOT going with current GSL.

[Scribble]

To help clairify my point, is there anybody in this forum or on this site that started playing D&D and had not been introduced to it by someone that already played it?

Me.

I woke up one day, and wanted to see what D&D was. I went and bought an intro boxed set a few days later.

Or more correctly my sister bought it for me as a gift after I said i wanted it.

 

[Raven Crowking]

If only the 3.5 or Pathfinder fans weren't so judgmental towards us 4th edition fans (y'know, looking down on us "fanbois" for liking our "dumbed down" game). Then we might actually find some common ground.

Have you actually encountered that?

I'm not a fan of 4e, but I think that some of it is brilliant. I'd certainly play a hybrid of the two systems. I certainly have no rancor towards folks that like 4e....although I do have some rancor towards it being GSL instead of OGL. I think a lot of people would play a hybrid that shared the strengths of both. If 4e was OGL, that hybrid would already be in the works.

(Probably a factor in why 4e is not OGL, but, really, if 4e had been pushed back a year for more development, it could have been the game that rocked all our socks. IMHO.)

 

[CountPopeula]

To help clairify my point, is there anybody in this forum or on this site that started playing D&D and had not been introduced to it by someone that already played it?

Right here. I bought second edition and the FR grey box because I had read Curse of the Azure Bonds, which I read because I recognized the name from the ads for the PC game.

 

[Psion]

If only the 3.5 or Pathfinder fans weren't so judgmental towards us 4th edition fans (y'know, looking down on us "fanbois" for liking our "dumbed down" game). Then we might actually find some common ground.

This one goes both ways. I see more (as you might expect, as there are more 4e adopters, law of averages...) 4e fans judgmental of 3.5 & Pathfinder fans, leveling accusations of ignorance and "grognard rage".

 

[WhatGravitas]

So, that's pretty sad - for a lot of people. This really, really sucks. Now, I don't even get the APG.

Looks like a lose-lose situation for me: Stick with 4E and abandon the 3PP stuff you grew to love or go Pathfinder and abandon the intriguing ruleset of 4E.

Well, my purse is happy, and now I have no excuse for not homebrewing any longer.

LT.

 

[Jasperak]

Well, there's at least me. At a relatively young age, I saw it at a bookstore and had my parents buy the basic set. I didn't make any serious progress on rules mastery for a few years after that, though, due to the way I picked it up.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you pick it up? Did you hear about it from any media source? Did you play any games based off of its IP? Were you interested in reading fantasy or watching fantasy movies and said "hey, now I can do that?" What prompted you to pick up the game.

Sometimes one can only use anecdotal evidence in forming their opinions and that is the case with me here. Other view points are appreciated.

 

[The Little Raven]

Have you actually encountered that?

Yes, a whole lot of it. On these forums, the Wizard boards, and RPG.NET, not to mention how venomous the Paizo boards have been. I've had people at my local gaming store do it (and get kicked out by the owner, as he doesn't tolerate people disrespecting other customers).

 

[Jasperak]

Due to the joy of ENWorld servers it has been over ten minutes since I hit reply and more than that amount since I questioned the first person that responded to my original question about how they were introduced to D&D.

Half a dozen or so said they found D&D through some other avenue than word-of-mouth. I just wonder if this would actually be poll-worthy to see just how our hobby came to be and can continue to grow. Thanks for the replies.

(Should this discussion be forked?)

 

[The Little Raven]

This one goes both ways.

Agreed.

I see more (as you might expect, as there are more 4e adopters, law of averages...) 4e fans judgmental of 3.5 & Pathfinder fans, leveling accusations of ignorance and "grognard rage".

To be fair, 3.5-only and Pathfinder-only fans are often ignorant of how things in 4e actually work, and many base their "knowledge" on second-hand forum posts while stating that they will never even read or play the game. It's not an insult to point out that someone has no idea what they're talking about, especially when they have no personal experience with the subject at hand by their own admission or when their statements are obviously based on something other than first-hand information (like your claims that OGL-to-GSL conversion requires you to pulp your existing inventory, even though the GSL has always said otherwise).

 

[rgard]

To help clairify my point, is there anybody in this forum or on this site that started playing D&D and had not been introduced to it by someone that already played it?

That would be me as well. I took the 3 hour, 4 different buses trip across town to get to the better hobby shop in Pittsburgh with the intent of buying a 1/35th scale Tamiya model tank. They didn't have it. I wandered the store and found the blue boxed set (1977 or 1978, I forget). I had just finished reading the Lord of the Rings...so it was a no brainer...I bought it.

Thanks,
Rich