4e Ravenloft - Dragon 368

[Dykstrav]

Think Soth, iirc, repented of his evil and was redeemed, thus leaving Ravenloft?

Like Dark Sun, rather they ignored much of the later stuff and stuck to original, as the later stuff just made it messy as hell :/

Soth was taken out of Ravenloft around 1999 in Spectre of the Black Rose, not because he had been redeemed, but because he somehow managed to ameliorate his torturous existence in Ravenloft. Although never expressly stated, it was hinted at that the Dark Powers realized that Soth could not suffer any more and just got rid of him.

Back in the late 90's/early 2000, rumors were flying that Soth was taken out of Ravenloft and back into Dragonlance because he was supposed to be the big villain in 3E Dragonlance. That was back when Wizards of the Coast were planning on doing Greyhawk as core and Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance as their two campaign settings.

 

[JeffB]

I still read his monster hunter books.

Those were some of the best 2E products period..regardless of campaign setting. Sadly (stupidly ? ) I sold them all sev years ago.

 

[ferratus]

Back in the late 90's/early 2000, rumors were flying that Soth was taken out of Ravenloft and back into Dragonlance because he was supposed to be the big villain in 3E Dragonlance. That was back when Wizards of the Coast were planning on doing Greyhawk as core and Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance as their two campaign settings.

I thought it was because Weis & Hickman threw a hissy fit because Soth "their character", and then killed him so that nobody could use him anymore.

That was how this long time dragonlance fan heard the situation went down, but I could be clouded by bitterness.

 

[Irda Ranger]

Excited and concerned.

Excited because, of course, Ravenloft is awesome.

Concerned because:
1. I saw what "making Forgotten Realms core" did to FR.
2. A full Domains of Dread would not fit in a Dragon Mag; what are they cutting out?
3. A culture within WotC that seems unclear on the difference between Emo/goth and actual Gothic horror. I'm looking at you, Tiefling entry in Races & Classes.
4. The RtCR book that seemed to think slasher-fic was a good substitute for tragedy.


Ironically, I do recognize that Wizards really screwing up Ravenloft would be the best way to actually get me in character for playing in Ravenloft (because my nightmares would be realized).

 

[EATherrian]

I haven't been impressed with the new Core. I really haven't been impressed with the new view of the Forgotten Realms. Therefore I'm going to call it that I'm not going to be impressed with their new take on Ravenloft. They need some better writers or thinkers in their world creation ranks.

 

[The Little Raven]

3. A culture within WotC that seems unclear on the difference between Emo/goth and actual Gothic horror. I'm looking at you, Tiefling entry in Races & Classes.

The tiefling is not intended to be representative of Gothic Horror, so nobody mistook "emo/goth" for it. They're more representative of the concept of original sin.

 

[Irda Ranger]

The tiefling is not intended to be representative of Gothic Horror, so nobody mistook "emo/goth" for it. They're more representative of the concept of original sin.

Bad example. I didn't want to use RtCR twice. But mistaking Emo/goth for "original sin" is no better, and still cheesy-cheese on cheese crackers.

 

[Jack Colby]

I don't honestly have high hopes for this. This setting seems the least suited for 4E. I'd much rather see Dark Sun. Speculation: the domains will sometimes overlay existing sites in the real world, rather than have PCs travel to the demiplane.

 

[The Little Raven]

But mistaking Emo/goth for "original sin" is no better, and still cheesy-cheese on cheese crackers.

See, that's the thing about opinions... I see you mistaking original sin for "emo/goth," rather than the writers mistaking "emo/goth" for original sin.

"Emo/goth" seems to be code for "I don't like this."

 

[Echohawk]

Those were some of the best 2E products period..regardless of campaign setting. Sadly (stupidly ? ) I sold them all sev years ago.

I have a spare copy of Van Richten's Monster Hunter's Compendium Volume One that I'll happily post you. Drop me a private message with your address.