So they can't/won't make minis to your exacting standards, and you don't like how people use them - because they use them in ways other than how you presumably would.
Therefore, they should not make them?
You're nuts.
I can't imagine you actually use minis like you're advocating, and expect them to fit your precise standards. Do you? How the heck could you actually game? And if you don't use minis, why do you have a horse in this race?
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I have been using and working with minis for a long time. Many games depend on things being to best possible scale.
The point is if you are not going to do them right then why do them at all.
They can just as easily sell tokens as they could minis for less cost to produce, and less cost to consumer and get people to buy them.
You think the little things don't matter, then look at the wording mentioned on this product. Look at the death of DDM.
Apparently the little things do matter to enough people to effect a change.
Now with CAD used in creating minis there is no excuse to not have things acled the same as the software can give heights for things so you know, if you take the time to not do it half-assed and make it not only look flashy and "cool" but at least get the sizes right.
If base size is all that matter then the tokens can be made instead of bases and minis and they can be the right size.
Again look at this tile product and read the disclaimer.
So a tile is made for outdoors using 4th edition scale grids on the tiles.
1"=5'
Now what good will those grids or minis be for 1st edition where outside 1"=10 yards (30 feet=6 squares)
You are going to have some very funny measurement going on here.
How big is that tavern?
I mean how big is that tavern at 4x5 squares?
20 x 25 feet?
20 x 25 yards?
12+ x 15+ feet?
40 x 50 feet?
40 x 50 yards?
So scale matters depending on which edition you play, and with what minis you use.
"All Dungeon Tiles products are compatible with all editions of Dungeons & Dragons."
As long as you use the current D&D miniatures product and the current 4th edition scale.
Obviously nobody at WotC cares about a quality product since the claims are false, and they can't even understand the importance of some kind of scale for either the tiles, the older editions, or the minis.
@Fifth_Element:
No they will not agree, because those who don't care, think those who do care are wrong for caring because it doesn't matter to them so it shouldn't matter to anyone. You don't have a right to your own opinion because you must follow those who don't give a damn about anything. Because it is easier for them to exist without having to think about things and bash those who do like to think about things.
I wasn't disputing the bases being the problem, hell that is why I bought so many DDM minis because they had some sort of standard, AND the minis didn't fall over....mostly.
But if the minis look like crap because you end up looking at them closely while picking one for your character or playing and moving them, then the product ends up being crap.
It isn't that hard to say make the dwarves shorter than humans. You don't have to make them exact scale, but don't let them get stupidly disproportionate to what they are trying to represent. Make a quality product, not some toy for a 25 cent gumball machine.
The art on the tiles is good, and the scale of the bases works for the grid scale to 4th and DDM. Sadly it isn't compatible with all editions of D&D unless you rewrite those using the grids, unless there will be one side without grides, or just dots to represent grid corners.
But the ever changing scale in D&D itself without minis is something the tiles aren't to blame for, nor the minis. But they must both deal with them in some way.
