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I think the solution here is to errata out the Gargantuan size category out of standard 4e monsters.
Reasons:
1) D&D Icons didn't sell very well.
2) Gargantuan minis don't work very well on a battlemat unless you have a huge open space
3) Garguantuan and Colossal sizes categories were a 3e innovation
4) Gargantuan and Colossal sizes would be better suited as terrain than as monsters alone. If you plop down a gargantuan monster you are plopping down something size of a mansion or a small keep. As Kamikaze says, why shouldn't you have rules for moving around and over it?
Largely, if the dragons are only huge (really how big do they need to be) then Tiamat can be the size she was meant to be in the D&D cartoon and 1e. If one wants to make larger creatures, we can always do a special dungeon tile rather than a miniature. That would have the advantage of having special zones, attacks, movement and such on the dungeon tile itself, yet still have exterior attacks like a miniature.
Sure, some customers are out $30-$120 depending how much they spent on their minis, but you could always do a DDI supplement in which you describe the old iconic minis as Great Wyrms who are so primordial they are older than the gods or something. In the meantime, they still look great on your shelf.
Kamikaze Midget said:
I think the solution here is to errata out the Gargantuan size category out of standard 4e monsters.
Reasons:
1) D&D Icons didn't sell very well.
2) Gargantuan minis don't work very well on a battlemat unless you have a huge open space
3) Garguantuan and Colossal sizes categories were a 3e innovation
4) Gargantuan and Colossal sizes would be better suited as terrain than as monsters alone. If you plop down a gargantuan monster you are plopping down something size of a mansion or a small keep. As Kamikaze says, why shouldn't you have rules for moving around and over it?
Largely, if the dragons are only huge (really how big do they need to be) then Tiamat can be the size she was meant to be in the D&D cartoon and 1e. If one wants to make larger creatures, we can always do a special dungeon tile rather than a miniature. That would have the advantage of having special zones, attacks, movement and such on the dungeon tile itself, yet still have exterior attacks like a miniature.
Sure, some customers are out $30-$120 depending how much they spent on their minis, but you could always do a DDI supplement in which you describe the old iconic minis as Great Wyrms who are so primordial they are older than the gods or something. In the meantime, they still look great on your shelf.
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