I have Demon Queen's Enclave (P2) and Manual of the Planes

[tsadkiel]

I was under the impression they were going to have Titania and Oberron, made famous by Shakespeare as the monarchs of the Fey, at least as they mentioned it in Worlds & Monsters.

I think Tiandra and Oran are Titania and Oberon renamed.

 

[Amphimir Míriel]

I think Tiandra and Oran are Titania and Oberon renamed.

Copyrights, anyone?

 

[Mercule]

gives the victim the choice between being dominated or getting some ongoing psychic damage

Cool. How would you like to be screwed today?

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Copyrights, anyone?

Doesn't apply, Shakespeare's work is in the public domain and is way too long ago, around before Copyright laws ever existed.

 

[doppelganger]

Doesn't apply, Shakespeare's work is in the public domain and is way too long ago, around before Copyright laws ever existed.

I think he meant that Wizards could copyright the new names, not that they changed the names because of a copyright Shakespeare held.

 

[thundershot]

As much as I love this thread, I just got my shipping notice from Amazon! I can't wait for these books (even though my group is still on KotS, the other adventures look pretty good)..


Oh.. the MAPS.... I noticed that one of the modules (I haven't run the others yet, so they blend together) have varying quality of maps... how are they for this one?



Thanks
Chris

 

[Fifth Element]

I think he meant that Wizards could copyright the new names, not that they changed the names because of a copyright Shakespeare held.

Trademark the new names. Trademark.

 

[M.L. Martin]

I spotted an early release copy at a local Border's today and paged through it. Being ambivalent about 4E, I don't have a solid opinion about it, but one thing I can report on:

The Blood War still exists--it's just in a state of uneasy truce right now, since Asmodeus doesn't want to provoke the Abyss, which would only unify in the face of an outside threat.

We also find out why it started in 4E's cosmology--the Abyss wants a piece of its Heart back. Asmodeus took it long ago, forged it into his famous ruby rod, and used it to kill his master. This weakened the Abyss and demonkind, too.

 

[Nai_Calus]

We also find out why it started in 4E's cosmology--the Abyss wants a piece of its Heart back. Asmodeus took it long ago, forged it into his famous ruby rod, and used it to kill his master. This weakened the Abyss and demonkind, too.

Now I have this horrible mental image of an intelligent rod that talks like Ruby Rhod from The Fifth Element, and Asmodeus being as unenthusiastic about it as Korben Dallas was in the movie.

 

[Shroomy]

I spotted an early release copy at a local Border's today and paged through it. Being ambivalent about 4E, I don't have a solid opinion about it, but one thing I can report on:

The Blood War still exists--it's just in a state of uneasy truce right now, since Asmodeus doesn't want to provoke the Abyss, which would only unify in the face of an outside threat.

We also find out why it started in 4E's cosmology--the Abyss wants a piece of its Heart back. Asmodeus took it long ago, forged it into his famous ruby rod, and used it to kill his master. This weakened the Abyss and demonkind, too.

I have to say that I rather like this explanation for the Blood War, more so than the Chaos vs. Law conflict (but then, I never liked the Chaos vs. Law conflict all that much).