ENWorld Edition Bias

[mmu1]

I've been a moderator for nearly six years, and not once in all that time has Morrus asked us moderators, either in the mod forum or by email, to weigh financial considerations or edition preference when we moderate. (Frankly, if he ever said such thing, we'd be on the first plane to the UK to see where the pod people had taken the real Russ to.*) We're here to make sure ENworld is a fun and useful place for people to talk about their favorite game. That's our goal, and none of us have an axe to grind one way or another. Also, the full extent of my "pay" was a few pdfs a few years back. We don't do this for pay. We do it because we want to. And for the pun wars in the mod forum.

I never said he did. In fact, I specifically said I didn't think it affected moderation.

However, I think it's impossible NOT to favor a new edition when you run a website such as this, and paying for it all is an issue.

 

[LightPhoenix]

However, I think it's impossible NOT to favor a new edition when you run a website such as this, and paying for it all is an issue.

Paying for the site has, to my recollection, always been an issue irregardless of edition.

 

[Negflar2099]

I didn't vote because I have no idea what you mean by biased. This isn't a news program, it's a message board. It doesn't have to present both sides or give equal weight to every opinion. It's just a place for people to express their own feelings about role-playing games. If you're saying that do I feel a majority of the posters favor 4e or not well that's a different question. If you're saying do I feel the people who run the board favor one side or the other well that's a different question too.

Frankly like many people this Edition Wars thing frustrates me. I can't believe this stuff is still going on six months later. I bought 4e and I enjoy it. I don't see why that has to upset anyone or why that steps on anybody's toes. I come to these boards so I can answer specific questions about the rules or see what other people have come up with for their game. Instead I get Edition Wars crap.

I don't go into the 3e boards and bad mouth the players there but I see that all the time in the 4e boards. For those who hate 4e I'm sorry but don't try to ruin my experience just because you don't like 4e. If that's what you mean by bias than I guess the boards are biased.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Plane Sailing has admitted to a 4Elovefest. read the Understanding change thread by Truename.

I think you are drawing more from my comments in that thread than are warranted! I am an early adopter by nature, that is true - and I was very keen for 4e to arrive. However, after playing it for 6-7 months I'm finding less and less I like about 4e, from fundamental design philosophy upwards.

Less a 4Elovefest and more a 4Eblinddatewhichdidntworkout, if you know what I mean.

Apart from that, it's as Eridanis said.

Cheers

 

[noretoc]

I too perceived a strong pro-4E aura here. It was so unbearable that it actually drove me away ("plenty of other forums, no need to waste time" and so on). I have recently started to check the posts here a bit more seriously (as opposed to the "oh, let's just check enworld for a few seconds, on the off chance that something useful and interesting might be found" mentality I had adopted during this time), and things have started to even up a bit. Let's see...

This is exactly what I did. Today is my first real visit back. I was surprised to see I was not the only one.

 

[diaglo]

Less a 4Elovefest and more a 4Eblinddatewhichdidntworkout, if you know what I mean.

you could always go back to OD&D(1974)

 

[Plane Sailing]

you could always go back to OD&D(1974)

Nah, my go-to game from the 1970's is Runequest2!

 

[Arnwyn]

I don't go into the 3e boards and bad mouth the players there but I see that all the time in the 4e boards.

Yeah, that would suck if wankers showed up on the "D&D 4th Edition Rules" forum and thread-crapped.

 

[hewligan]

I voted pro-4e, anti-3e. I agree that this was much worse a few months ago, to the point where I almost took my PbP game to another set of forums. It was not that the anti-3e sentiment that I felt a few months ago ever infect my game thread, it was just that I never found myself coming to the site except for my game post so the logical idea was that I should move to a forum that I frequented for other purposes.

I do, however, think things have calmed down quite a bit on here over the last few months. I even read the main forum again, which I avoided for a long time. There are still 4e vs 3e threads, but less of them (there was a stage where that was all you could find), and some reasoned discussion has returned.

I think the main page is still quite pro 4e, but it is Morrus's labour of love, and he is a 4e fan and he has the right to focus on whatever he wants.

I still like this site. I went through a period of hating it a bit, but I feel the love returning a little.

 

[Morrus]

I think the main page is still quite pro 4e, but it is Morrus's labour of love, and he is a 4e fan and he has the right to focus on whatever he wants.

Not at all. I post what news is sent to me.

Unfortunately, it's pretty much impossible to post about new 3E products from WotC, unless I invent fake news. The news is what it is - it's about what IS happening, not what we WANT to happen. And, unfortunately for all the 3E fans out there, there IS more 4E news than there is 3E.

I include Pathfinder news when there is any; I include any 3E news sent to me by 3rd-party publishers. I include EN Publishing's own news, which is all 3E (War of the Burning Sky is for 3.5).

But no, I don't create the news; I just report it.