Rapid Spell Feat (Complete Divine)

[Nimloth]

I've never played, or had anyone in my group play, an Artificer (or Eberron for that matter, though it looks fun), but would infusions qualify as spells for this feat?

 

[Herzog]

yes:

Like a spellcaster, an artificer can apply item creation
feats and metamagic feats to his infusions. Like a
sorcerer, an artificer can apply a metamagic feat to an
infusion spontaneously, but doing this requires extra
time. An artificer can craft alchemical items as though
he were a spellcaster.

 

[Flatus Maximus]

For the reason that there is a larger reduction that has yet to take place...

I wasn't advocating Achan hiArusa's interpretation, I was showing that his/her interpretation leads to absurd conclusions.

 

[Achan hiArusa]

Oh, its a male Tsolyanu name so maisúr is the proper address, but you may use túsmidàli when addressing me directly and I shall use tsamungá to address you. Also using the word Absurd is not helpful when making arguements, but here I will stoop.

So basically a spell with a casting time of 2-9 rounds can be cast as a full-round action, but all we have to do is add 6 seconds to that and it becomes a minute!? Really? And that isn't an absurd triumph of rules over sense? Same goes for the difference between a spell with a casting time of 59 minutes vs. one of 60 minutes (if such existed). Again...

EDIT: An no your absurd interpretation would not work because at that point that is a direct violation of the wording of the feat.

 

[Thanee]

Well, the border must be drawn somewhere.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Jeff Wilder]

As a DM with a 12th level artificer in his game, I advise caution: letting an artificer cast spell-storing infusions more rapidly, without the limit of action points, is a very, very bad idea.

 

[Flatus Maximus]

So basically a spell with a casting time of 2-9 rounds can be cast as a full-round action, but all we have to do is add 6 seconds to that and it becomes a minute!? Really? And that isn't an absurd triumph of rules over sense? Same goes for the difference between a spell with a casting time of 59 minutes vs. one of 60 minutes (if such existed). Again...

EDIT: An no your absurd interpretation would not work because at that point that is a direct violation of the wording of the feat.

I'm not sure what was so offensive about using the word "absurd," but I certainly didn't mean to offend.

Yes, adding 6 seconds means that the time can now be measured in MINUTES. (Yes, 1 minute can be measured in MINUTES, just like 1 hour can be measure in HOURS.) I was just pointing out that if you want to say that you can measure 1 minute in rounds, then yes, you can, but why not measure it minutes? And since we are now ignoring some of the wording of the description, why not other parts: why not measure 2 minutes in terms of rounds instead of minutes, etc.

As Thanee said, ultimately you have to draw the line somewhere.

 

[Achan hiArusa]

And that's why we have DMs. I am going to draw the line differently apparently than everyone else here.

 

[Shin Okada]

I've never played, or had anyone in my group play, an Artificer (or Eberron for that matter, though it looks fun), but would infusions qualify as spells for this feat?

Yes. Artificers can apply metamagic feats on their infusions. It is written in ECS.

But if an artificer want to do something faster, he should create items which actually contain spells. Then use UMD to activate them.

 

[moritheil]

As a DM with a 12th level artificer in his game, I advise caution: letting an artificer cast spell-storing infusions more rapidly, without the limit of action points, is a very, very bad idea.

Well, it's a bad idea to allow a blastificer in general unless you account for it by throwing more bodies into the mix and making the ultimate goals not combat-oriented. Right?