New Forgotten Realms designed by FR haters?

[SPECTRE666]

I was considering placing Freeport in it, actually.

Freeport in any setting is full of win.

SPECTRE

 

[Scribble]

When I read these boards, I think I must be the only person in the world who thought the Times of Trouble were cool.

I liked the story, but some of the results bugged me.

My friend and one of my players was a big Cyric fan, and he was one of those power gamer tyopes that always also tried to use Chaotic Evil as a way of rationalizing screwing everyone else in the game... So as a result that kind of tainted my view of Cyric.

 

[avin]

Before playing Baldur's Gate I my only FR experience was in an one shot game where I was a Bladesinger.

BG is about Time of Troubles repercussion, focusing the death of Bhaal. I played Tales of the Sword Coast, BG II and its expansion only to have some sympathy for Bhaal and prejudice against Cyric.

Humans killing Gods were not my campaign focus nor will be so I can't say good things about it.

 

[Shemeska]

I'll raise my hand to be counted among the people who liked the Time of Troubles. The story and fallout, and of particular note* the subsequent development of that fallout, were both interesting in their own right, and full of plot hooks to play with. But even though I like it, Kelemvor is still boring to me.

And this purely speculation on my part since I wasn't playing D&D yet, but perhaps the dislike of the ToT had more to do with some of the kneejerk reaction that 2e in general faced initially than it did the actual changes to 2e FR?

*to differentiate why perhaps I like it, but not something like the Spellplague

 

[D'karr]

I'll raise my hand to be counted among the people who liked the Time of Troubles. The story and fallout, and of particular note* the subsequent development of that fallout, were both interesting in their own right, and full of plot hooks to play with. But even though I like it, Kelemvor is still boring to me.

And this purely speculation on my part since I wasn't playing D&D yet, but perhaps the dislike of the ToT had more to do with some of the kneejerk reaction that 2e in general faced initially than it did the actual changes to 2e FR?

*to differentiate why perhaps I like it, but not something like the Spellplague

Because the kneejerk reaction that 4e receives has nothing to do with how 4e FR is disliked by some.

 

[Scribble]

And this purely speculation on my part since I wasn't playing D&D yet, but perhaps the dislike of the ToT had more to do with some of the kneejerk reaction that 2e in general faced initially than it did the actual changes to 2e FR?

I think that was probably part of it. I don't think that was everyone's reason, but I can see that as being a part of it definitely.

 

[Fenes]

The time of troubles were among the first novels I read. I like the idea, though some of the consequences seem silly to me now, and in my campaign those were greatly changed.

 

[Shemeska]

Because the kneejerk reaction that 4e receives has nothing to do with how 4e FR is disliked by some.

Except that many people were unhappy with 4e FR months before 4e was actually released, courtesy of the last page or two in GHotR which listed some of the looming 4e FR setting changes.

 

[Lurks-no-More]

To be fair on the FR designers, they did respond to the fans in one issue. Someone mentioned that Tyr was silly, and gave some reasons as to why that was. Rich Baker agreed.. and they killed off Tyr. Go team.

And a great thing, too. Never liked the "real-world" gods in FR, with Tyr and Mielikki as the two big offenders (and, of course, the whole Egyptian pantheon in Mulhorand...). Torm does the job much better, I think, and he's a FR deity from the start.

 

[DracoSuave]

Going to the original topic, dunno if it was said.... but I hardly doubt a design team that has Ed Greenwood on it could be described as 'FR-hating' seeing as he invented the Realms.

It's propaganda.


And Time of Troubles did suck, imho.