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True, well it is more I just hope, that WoTC just doesn't go, "its Arcane but with the MIND!!!" If you get my drift. I am hopeful they can since Primal has for example a very different vibe and feel. So I am hoping for Psionics one way they can get this across is a much more upfront Pseudoscience angle (in at least some class, paragon path, etc.)
And here I am hoping they go in the opposite direction. I can't stand the pseudoscience stuff.

I don't like gravity in my fantasy. Or molecules. Or anything found in a science textbook.
 

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I like it since it takes concepts we have from science and turns it on their head and makes them work in completely bonkers ways. Like sound and light waves travelling through space, they figured there had to be a medium to travel through. Thus Aether and thus are born the concept of Aether-ships travelling through space using propellers or corkscrew props.

Though... This is heading off-topic, so shall shut my yap about it for now ;)
 

*Shifty eyes and whispers* Plus I am really gunning for them to eventually do a Pseudoscience setting. So Psionics having that vibe would be helpful.

I think that'd be a great idea for a third-party company to do. But I can all but guarantee you that it won't happen from WotC. I just don't think there'd be even remotely a wide enough audience.
 

True, well it is more I just hope, that WoTC just doesn't go, "its Arcane but with the MIND!!!" If you get my drift. I am hopeful they can since Primal has for example a very different vibe and feel. So I am hoping for Psionics one way they can get this across is a much more upfront Pseudoscience angle (in at least some class, paragon path, etc.)

*Shifty eyes and whispers* Plus I am really gunning for them to eventually do a Pseudoscience setting. So Psionics having that vibe would be helpful.

Yeah, I see what you are saying. I am pretty confident that the Psionic source will be very flavorful. They haven't failed me yet on that.
 

I think that'd be a great idea for a third-party company to do. But I can all but guarantee you that it won't happen from WotC. I just don't think there'd be even remotely a wide enough audience.
Yeah, but I like to dream :)

But like I said, enough from me and Pseudoscience, Shoo! Shoo! Back to Monk discussion!
 

The monk looks like a cool class, but I was excited to see what new ideas the ki power source was going to bring into the game. Very disappointed that they choked on the opportunity.

While I can certainly understand your disappointment, I don't think there's any real lost opportunity here. A cool class idea is a cool class idea. If someone at WotC comes up with one, they're not going to reject it because "Hey, this would've been a cool ki class, but we didn't create that, so I'll just chuck the idea." What they'll say is, "This would've been a cool ki class, but since we don't have that, I should probably make it [insert other power source here]."

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any concept that could have been lumped under ki that can't also fit under one of the other power sources.
 

While I can certainly understand your disappointment, I don't think there's any real lost opportunity here. A cool class idea is a cool class idea. If someone at WotC comes up with one, they're not going to reject it because "Hey, this would've been a cool ki class, but we didn't create that, so I'll just chuck the idea." What they'll say is, "This would've been a cool ki class, but since we don't have that, I should probably make it [insert other power source here]."

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any concept that could have been lumped under ki that can't also fit under one of the other power sources.
*Nods* They even say as much in the Design & Development with the example of the Samurai.

I really am glad to see WoTC being flexible and adaptive and willing to change things.
 

So Ari, what do you think of the new monk?

As a sidenote, the Monk being a Psi Striker doesn't rule out future Psi striker classes. After all, we have two Martial and two Arcane strikers.
 

As a sidenote, the Monk being a Psi Striker doesn't rule out future Psi striker classes. After all, we have two Martial and two Arcane strikers.
I think it is possible we may even see 5 Psionic classes in PHB3. If they did a full grouping of Psionics normally and then also the Monk.
 

So Ari, what do you think of the new monk?

Truth be told, I haven't looked over the class yet. I just read the Design and Development article so far. :o

But it certainly sounds interesting, based on what I'm seeing. Maybe a tad complex, but that's a good thing. I like the idea of some classes being more complex than others.
 

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