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[Obryn]

You seem to have lost all perspective here, Morrus. Is that your way of welcoming visitors?!

I dunno... Is refusing to give back (in even the smallest way) to a community that apparently gives you enjoyment, your way of saying "Thanks for having me"?

It's all well and good to say, "I post here, therefore I contribute everything I need to contribute." But if everyone took that philosophy, why would anyone help out financially at all? You're traged-izing the commons.

-O

 

[pawsplay]

It's all well and good to say, "I post here, therefore I contribute everything I need to contribute." But if everyone took that philosophy, why would anyone help out financially at all? You're traged-izing the commons.

-O

And if everyone financially contributed and no one posted, where would we be? Obryn, he was talking specifically about visitors, not committed community members. And we do need visitors. Recent indications suggest we need lots of visitors, to pump up ad revenue and increase our pool of potential supporters.

 

[Morrus]

Gah! Using my iPhone to post is a nightmare. My last post was directed at two different people, but I messed up the quote tags. So it probably doesn't make much sense.

I'll try to do it properly when I get my PC back.

 

[Obryn]

And if everyone financially contributed and no one posted, where would we be?

How's that relevant? Who's saying that's awesome, either? Just reversing the order of something I post doesn't magically add new insight.

Obryn, he was talking specifically about visitors, not committed community members. And we do need visitors. Recent indications suggest we need lots of visitors, to pump up ad revenue and increase our pool of potential supporters.

I know you don't often care to check context, but follow their posts backwards. It all started here and the dialogue between Zapp and Morrus has followed from that. Zapp wants to block ads without being a CS; Morrus doesn't care for that - probably given how long Zapp has been around.

In Zapp's most recent post, he's arguing against something that nobody even said - I don't think anyone at all is making the argument that every visitor should pony up before posting or reading. Absolutely, without those folks, the site would suck, and I think everyone from Morrus on down knows this.

IMO, he's only talking about random visitors so he can claim to be one. Also IMO, if you've capped a thousand posts and post daily, you're not a random visitor. And if you're a regular, the least you can do is let some ads through to help a community you apparently value.

-O

 

[pawsplay]

I know you don't often care to check context,

Hey, watch the cross-thread snark, ok?

I don't know Cap'n Zapp from anybody. For all I know, he's on thirty different gaming web sites and they're not all going to get $3 a month from him. If his support is more important to ENWorld than ENWorld is to him, that's just how it is. If he spouted off earlier, that doesn't mean that automatically the next thing he says can be discounted just because it came from him. I don't agree with his position, but I can still agree with certain points that are realistic. I don't agree with you completely, Obryn, but I can agree that guests to this website should check their coats and wipe their shoes.

 

[Obryn]

If he spouted off earlier, that doesn't mean that automatically the next thing he says can be discounted just because it came from him.

If it's not related to what he said earlier, then it makes no sense at all, since nobody is arguing for what he's arguing against. Nobody mentioned visitors until him. Threads are conversations, and neither they nor individual posts occur in vacuums.

I don't agree with his position, but I can still agree with certain points that are realistic. I don't agree with you completely, Obryn, but I can agree that guests to this website should check their coats and wipe their shoes.

That's basically all I'm saying - our host asks that we either support the site through an account, or else allow ads. (And, for that matter, not encourage others to block ads, either.) I, frankly, don't see that as unreasonable in the least. And I also don't think there's any call to gripe at said host about it.

-O

 

[Lanefan]

Is there any way I can pay for a CSA without coming in contact with the Evil that is Paypal?

Lanefan

 

[pawsplay]

Is there any way I can pay for a CSA without coming in contact with the Evil that is Paypal?

Lanefan

Fortunately, I don't have any paladin powers to worry about losing.

 

[Elephant]

You seem to have lost all perspective here, Morrus. Is that your way of welcoming paying customers?!

The above phrasing would be more appropriate, given my multiple purchases of EN Publishing pdfs.

 

[Elephant]

No need to get hostile. The man just expressed his opinion.

I don't suppose someone could help me out? I don't mind letting EN World ads run (and they show up usually, since most of the time I browse away from home), but at home I have NoScript. Is there a way for me to allow scripted ads for this site (and others I frequent), but not elsewhere?

I like that I lessen the risk of stumbling into a nasty site, but I don't want to deny Russ a bit of aid in his income.

Others have posted about "allow all on this site" - and that'll work - but you'll need to restart your browser before you visit other sites if you want to avoid ad scripts/Google tracking/etc on other sites.