Converting Al-Qadim creatures

[Number 6]

Climb 5, Concentration 11, Craft (blacksmith) 11, Craft (carpentry) 11, Craft (stonemasonry) 11, Jump 5, Knowledge (architecture & engineering) 12, Knowledge (planes) 11, Listen 11, Profession (architect) 11, Profession (builder) 11, Spot 11, Search 11.

I'd propose dropping Jump altogether (it doesn't really fit their theme), and putting 1 more point each in the Craft skills and Profession skills.

Yes, that's very reasonable. Or maybe add Profession (engineer) and take the five ranks from Jump.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Do we need any racial skill bonuses for the Craft/Knowledge/Professions, or do the modifiers look sufficient?

Caster level for SLAs? The other genies don't seem to follow any particular pattern.

 

[Number 6]

Caster level for SLAs? The other genies don't seem to follow any particular pattern.

I seem to recall that, for whatever reason, Dao were the least powerful in terms of Hit Dice and Caster Level for SLA and Marids were most powerful. Djinn have caster level 20 and Efreet have caster level 12.

If we want to tie Builder Genies to Dao for purposes of Caster Level (or Caster Level in relation to Hit Dice) let's bump the Builder Genie Caster Level one higher than Dao.

I can't find the Dao caster level right now... it wasn't included on the version I grabbed from here.

Anyone have the Manual of the Planes (and 3.5 errata) available?

 

[Number 6]

I can't find the Dao caster level right now... it wasn't included on the version I grabbed from here.

Anyone have the Manual of the Planes (and 3.5 errata) available?

Based on the MotP, Dao have a Caster Level of 19th.

 

[Cleon]

Do we need any racial skill bonuses for the Craft/Knowledge/Professions, or do the modifiers look sufficient?

I would give them racial bonuses in Knowledge (architecture & engineering), Profession (architect) and Profession (builder). Probably +4 or so.

Caster level for SLAs? The other genies don't seem to follow any particular pattern.

AD&D Dao are 18th level casters and Djinni 20th level.

Since 3E Djinni have the same CL as the 2E version, I'd give Architect/Builders CL 18 like Dao.

 

[freyar]

Whew, I'm behind on these. All this sounds good, though!

 

[Number 6]

AD&D Dao are 18th level casters and Djinni 20th level.

Since 3E Djinni have the same CL as the 2E version, I'd give Architect/Builders CL 18 like Dao.

Actually, v3.5 Dao have a Caster Level of 19th.


Efreet are Caster Level 12th (Monster Manual)
Djinn are Caster Level 20th (Monster Manual)
Dao are Caster Level 19th (Manual of the Planes)
The Caster Level for Marid is unlisted (Manual of the Planes)... but must be available in the errata.

 

[Shade]

Marid is 19th as well.

So, 19th for the builders?

 

[Number 6]

So, 19th for the builders?

The Builder Genie has one more Hit Die than the Dao, but I'm not sure that's a strong enough reason to bump up the Caster Level.

 

[Cleon]

Actually, v3.5 Dao have a Caster Level of 19th.


Efreet are Caster Level 12th (Monster Manual)
Djinn are Caster Level 20th (Monster Manual)
Dao are Caster Level 19th (Manual of the Planes)
The Caster Level for Marid is unlisted (Manual of the Planes)... but must be available in the errata.

Number 6's post hop-scotched mine while I was drafting it.

Either 18th or 19th CL would suit me fine, it makes little difference to me.