Converting Al-Qadim creatures

[Cleon]

Now that I've seen Cleon's post regarding his recommended Duodimensional (Su) ability, it is a rather good 3rd-edition version. For what it's worth, I'd eliminate the sideways-dimension aspect.

The vast advantage with Escape Artist checks might be problematic as they will always get out of Grapples. Perhaps instead of a near infinite bonus to Escape Artist, a straightforward +20 bonus would be better.

It'd need to be higher than that since the Escape Artist check to squeeze through a 2" wide tight space is DC 80 according to the Epic Rules.

However, since giving them nigh-infinite Escape Artist has undesirable consequences, I think we'd be better just saying "it can automatically squeeze through cracks tall enough to accommodate its height" rather than giving it an Escape Artist bonus.

 

[freyar]

I feel like we're having two conversations here. In one, we're talking about a unique duodimension Su power. In the other, we're talking about invisibility, blur, and displacement. Can we just choose? (I seriously wish the original designer hadn't gone for something so weird.)

Before we start chattering on these, can we just each vote and wait till we hear back from everyone (which means waiting for Shade on Monday)?

I vote for the 3 SLAs. I'm just guessing about the designer's intent, and I think invisibility, blur, and displacement does the job. It's not a strong opinion, but it seems simpler to go with the SLAs.

 

[Cleon]

I vote for the 3 SLAs. I'm just guessing about the designer's intent, and I think invisibility, blur, and displacement does the job. It's not a strong opinion, but it seems simpler to go with the SLAs.

You already knew I was going to vote duodimensional, didn't you?

It's the big disadvantage of being flat, people can read you like a book.

 

[Shade]

My vote's the same as freyar's.

 

[Number 6]

I'm perfectly willing to help refine either choice... so Splunge for me.

 

[freyar]

Maybe this is a chance for another Cleon special?

 

[Shade]

So...2/day for each, like the other SLAs? Or increase the frequency of some of the SLAs? Most genies have a few "at wills", a few 3/day, and a few 1/day.

 

[Number 6]

How about 2/day for Blur and Displacement... with 3/day for Invisibility?

Where are we at with Shadow Conjuration? Did we rule that out?

 

[Cleon]

Maybe this is a chance for another Cleon special?

How do you know I haven't already done one.

 

[Cleon]

So...2/day for each, like the other SLAs? Or increase the frequency of some of the SLAs? Most genies have a few "at wills", a few 3/day, and a few 1/day.

I'd like to add some at-wills.

Maybe at-will ghost sound and minor image since they're good at illusions?

How about 2/day for Blur and Displacement... with 3/day for Invisibility?

Where are we at with Shadow Conjuration? Did we rule that out?

I'd like to give them shadow conjuration as a 1/day.