Scribble
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I think adult website tracking numbers would give you your answer.
I think you might be jumping to conclusions there...
"Not 4.5" is coming soon. Thoughts?
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I think you might be jumping to conclusions there...
Walking Dad
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This is odd thinking. If they didn't include something new, you could just have ignored it and saved your money. So, how is having to buy much 'old' stuff to get a bit new a good thing?
Exactly. They effectively made DDI essential for playing. D&D has now a 'monthly' cost like WoW (if you want to play olnine and don't find a group who will ignore the new stuff.).
Yes, and this will not be possible, I only got a costly internet version, called DDI.
Actually, doing an official 4.5 would be easier for new players. So they got:
"You bought the rule books? Great, don't forget to contantly cross-reference do the update (it is no errata) or by a DDI subscription."
If you want the new content they produce you have to pay for it. You do not have to pay if you want to play D&D.
While that is technically true, there are those who have already reported that there is a subset of tables- possibly growing- where a DDI account is required. IOW, no pay, no play.
Now, like the OP and others in that thread, I'm not going to let someone hold my lack of a DDI account over me like a Sword of Damocles. I can walk away, no problem- I'm an Army Brat who has attended schools in many cities, so I know I can find another table. I'm also not wedded to 4Ed: its a decent game, but its nowhere near my fave.
But if that trend is growing, it bodes ill for those who love 4Ed and who, for whatever reason, do not have a DDI account.
Now, like the OP and others in that thread, I'm not going to let someone hold my lack of a DDI account over me like a Sword of Damocles. I can walk away, no problem- I'm an Army Brat who has attended schools in many cities, so I know I can find another table. I'm also not wedded to 4Ed: its a decent game, but its nowhere near my fave.
But if that trend is growing, it bodes ill for those who love 4Ed and who, for whatever reason, do not have a DDI account.
Festivus
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You don't exactly have to pay to play WoW either. The big difference is that you can legally play D&D without a subscription, you can't legally play WoW without one.
The day that D&D became a pay to play scenario is the day I stop playing it... but that day will never come so I don't worry about it.
So you're telling me gamers don't like freeloaders who borrow your books, ask for your DDI password and don't chip in for pizza?
That's not what Lenin fought the revolution for.
Personally, I've been blessed with good fortune, so I've never had a problem with freeloaders. This is because I treat my RPG collection like a library, including having multiple copies of books in high demand.
Basically, you can borrow whatever you want, but if you mess it up, I will expect you to replace it.
Basically, you can borrow whatever you want, but if you mess it up, I will expect you to replace it.
Not true. You can get all of the updated content free online at wizard.com/dnd. You PH1 and PH2 still work perfectly, and perfectly compatibly with post-Essentials 4E. The only thing you don't get without paying is anything new -- no new build, feats, powers, etc. That shouldn't be surprising.
FWIW, D&DI is dirt cheap compared to buying the books. It's like $75 for a whole year, and you can keep everything you download. If that's still too much for you, pay $15 and subscribe just for the month of December (or any other month) and download all the content available, then repeat again a year later. That's plenty cheaper than buying all the new books that come out.
Ditto!
Yes, the DDI is convenient, but it's still far from a must-buy-to play.
That there are a bunch of deluded individuals out there that make DDI access a requirement to play doesn't change that.
Walking Dad
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If I want to play on the living boards of this website, it starts to become really time consuming referencing everything you choose from the books you bought with the update you downloaded and printed out.
That is what I mostly dislike about DDI: It makes updates/patches to easy for the producer. If you produce a console game and it sucked i to many details, the producer lost money. So they had to do good work to bring it out (nearly) perfect. For PC game, they just expect you to download the updates. At least then they are automatically incorporated into the product and not in an external website.
It is not about the new books, but about the 'secret' revisions of my old ones.
About not needed: Tried to incorporate the 'damage by level' chart and the accompanying 'monster statistics by role' on the fly when you had to improvise in an adventure?
