RPG Documentaries: The Dungeon Masters, etc..

McTreble

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I feel like this is the right forum because when I looked at the media forum, there was nothing there that quite fit the topic of this thread.

I'm a fan of the culture of gamers; the psychological and social aspects. I've read a few books on the subject and I've now finished watching my second RPG culture documentary, The Dungeon Masters. (The other one I saw was Darkon, the LARP doc.)

I have come to two conclusions:

These filmmakers hate us
or
We're really that sad.

The second, I refuse to believe. With that, maybe it's worth addressing the first point.

With Darkon and moreso The Dungeon Masters, the filmmakers have chosen to focus on the most pathetic of us, the most jarringly odd of us, or flat out the most masochistic. In TDM, the filmmakers chose to focus on three GMs who exemplify everything embarassing about our hobby.

One is a failed writer, a part-time hotel manager (I think) and what we jokingly refer to as a "fatbeard". This guy I didn't hate, but I pitied. The filmmaker chose to highlight all of his failings and exemplified this with many shots of run-down buildings, messy locales, etc. He works on two projects in the film. One is shown to have failed, the other is completed, but the audience isn't told if it was successful.

The second is, for lack of a better term, a douchebag. He famously says about his players: "If I haven't killed them by midnight, then I haven't done my job." Huh? Do people really play in such an openly antagonistic atmosphere? I wouldn't last a single session with this guy. He trolls on and on about how nobody has finished his campaign with a nod and a wink because it's too hard. He's not doing his job, as far as I'm concerned. If I'm a non-gaming viewer, I'd be turned off from the hobby while watching this guy. He has a wife who actively avoids discussing the game. At least she doesn't ban him from playing, but I wonder how prevelant this spousal ignorance is among us.

The third is the creme' de la creme. A female player who... get this... dresses up as a drow when she DMs the game. I don't really know what to say except this is a blow to the outsider perception of us. There are only a handful of female gamers out there, she should not be representing that hopefully increasing trend. In addition to her quirky play, she is another one whom the filmmakers set up as being lonely, down on her luck, socially pathetic, and a full time female "fatbeard".

Add to all of this a downtrodden and sparse score, tons of transition shots of delapidated buildings, and "overheard" conversations about issues that gaming brings to a marriage and friendship, not to mention a nice LARP segment clearly designed to further ridicule and you have a portrait of gamers as lonely pathetic failures.

I've had enough of this garbage. Where is the footage of how the game is highly social? What about the guy who uses the game's lessons to teach his drama class? What about the healing and imaginitive power behind the game? Or, are there more "fatbeards" and drow-women than there are "normals"? Do these films get it right?

I hope this leads to a good discussion, but im also interested in making my own doc on rpg life. If anyone is interested and wants to hash out ideas, hit me with a PM or email me at mrkemper2005@yahoo.com
 

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I've yet to see a documenatary do it's job properly. The best I have seen is this one:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWCh7hoK0_Q&playnext=1&videos=QkbPJQE7Cew]YouTube - The Dungeons and Dragons Experience Documentary PT 1[/ame]

It's an hour long in total and covers a lot of area, though seems heavy on 1st ed AD&D.

A fair chunk of the people interviewed come across as a little too weird and it's no surprise that if that's how we are portrayed then it turns non-gamers off. There is also a weird guy in the section on "Evil" whose descriptions of how he run the game just seems harmful to the game than mere quirky.

I don't quite see why there isn't a decent documentary on roleplaying in general or D&D out there.
 


It's pretty well known by now that The Dungeon Masters is deliberately slanted, and goes out of its way to portray the people interviewed in the worst possible light.

I refer you to the RPG Examiner's article on this topic.
 

The one about Nero is pretty good, it shows a regular guy who works at Xerox who takes his girls and has a great time... and the dregs to.

[edit] warning it does spend more time on the worst types of gamers (more entertaining I guess) but it does show that there are perfectly normal people who play to.
 

That review nailed it. You'd think that, just by the laws of the universe, someone would say: "enough. Let's shine a positive light on the hobby and it's players."

I rarely see a doc about sports fans that paints them in such a horrible light. And let's face it... the parallels between RPG and sport enthusiasts are many.
 

I hadn't heard about The Dungeon Masters until you mentioned it in the original post. I'm going through it on Youtube at the moment and I don't think it's that bad (other than 4E stuff :p ). I've seen a lot worse. TDM isn't something I would be ashamed of showing to non-gamers.

Edit: Actually now that I've finished it, I think I found something completely different. There's no drow woman in this one. This is the one I found. There are three parts in total.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urU6eqACpCo"]YouTube- D&D Dungeon Masters, Part 1[/ame]
 
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That's more what I'm talking about. Positive tone, normal people. It's a bit focused on DMing though; not easily digested by the masses. Still, a huge step up from the other Dungeon Masters.
 

The problem really isn't us or them, it's the media. Nobody wants to read a book that can be summed up as saying "Most RPers are just normal joes with a healthy hobby." They want to read a book that makes THEM feel normal, even if they are RPers themselves. They want to watch a movie that shows a group of people so disgustingly out of touch with the rest of humanity, that their own failings can be ignored.

Sure, there are some directors who are "out to get us" kind of people, but the ones who are like that usually get a reputation for being so, and unless they have a huge following, they tend to die out quickly.

And of course, there are gamers just like these people, just as there are :):):):):):):) drivers and parents who don't love their children.

But both bad directors and bad gamers are the minority. The problem is, as above, the fact that finding out that you are normal, that they are normal, is not what people want to be told, they want to feel like a special superior snowflake.
 


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