Why *Dont* you like Forgotten Realms?

[Aldarc]

And is there something perverted in "magicking away" your pregnancies... we have pills for that. If we had magic in RL, I'm fairly sure that such spells would be surprisingly popular -- at least among teenagers. AFAIK it tells nothing of Ed's own personality.

And a lot of nobles in fiction and RPG campaigns tend to have orgies... a lot of orgies.

It's not a matter that there are orgies - no one will dispute the historical reality of orgies - but how Greenwood presents these orgies. And the how is rather telling of his personality. You can read the delight he has in his own perversions.

 

[Philosopher]

Seriously?

You're going to argue that Ed Greenwood isn't a dirty old man?

Really? That's the fight you're choosing? Ed "the party comes across an orgy and needs to find the beautiful queen in there" Greenwood? Ed "never describes a female character, just calls them beautiful" Greenwood? Ed "If I had my way the Forgotten Realms books would read more like a letter to Penthouse" Greenwood?

You're going to fight that he's not perverse?

Here's what you said:

Like, the guy self identifies as a dirty old man. He calls himself this all the damn time.

I don't care whether he is one or not, but I'm also curious to see a reference. Where does he call himself a dirty old man? If I see it, I'll be convinced.

 

[Turjan]

It's not a matter that there are orgies - no one will dispute the historical reality of orgies - but how Greenwood presents these orgies. And the how is rather telling of his personality. You can read the delight he has in his own perversions.

Hmm. From all I have heard about Ed (never met him myself), I can understand the "icky" part, in the way that he seems to use very sexually loaded language in communication with his female fans, which might make women feel uncomfortable. I haven't seen anything that reminds me of perversion, though.

 

[I'm A Banana]

The whole thing reads like a horny 14-year-old male's personal fantasy world.

Ding-dong.

The nerd power fantasy is in full swing here, with both Elminster and Drizzit, and the whole sorry world that creates them.

And the Spellplauge wasn't the right fix for the mass market. While a vastly entertaining idea, it did destroy what some people love about it. Which, y'know...booooooooo.

 

[Aldarc]

Hmm. From all I have heard about Ed (never met him myself), I can understand the "icky" part, in the way that he seems to use very sexually loaded language in communication with his female fans, which might make women feel uncomfortable. I haven't seen anything that reminds me of perversion, though.

Now we are just playing at semantics.

 

[Turjan]

Now we are just playing at semantics.

Not my intent. I get a 70's hippy vibe from him, and that's more amusing than anything else.

 

[Aegeri]

This thread sure took a turn for the weird. It reminds me of the Forgotten Realms novels boards on the official forums, before the great drama that had them shut down and all novel discussion banned.

 

[Diamond Cross]

Well if I was a moderator here I would simply give some informal warnings about how these idiots are making personal attacks against someone they don't even know.

 

[Aldarc]

Well if I was a moderator here I would simply give some informal warnings about how these idiots are making personal attacks against someone they don't even know.

Aren't you walking dangerously close to committing this yourself?

 

[Diamond Cross]

Aren't you walking dangerously close to committing this yourself?

Quite possibly, but it was very wrong to start turning this into a witchunt against the author and calling him creepy.

But hey, who cares. It's fun to demonize people you can't know in order to get people to stop discussing a product because they don't like the product.