Has anyone seen this DC Animated Movie DVD/BR release yet? It's based upon the Jeph Loeb comic (although it's called Supergirl instead of Apocalypse) and in many ways it surpasses the original. The animation is great and the fight scenes, particularly the last one, are phenomenal.
Superman/Batman: Apocalypse
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Saw it, love the battle scenes. Darksied rocks. And Supes went all out.
And yes, so did Supergirl, Big Barda, Wonder Woman and Batman!!!
And yes, so did Supergirl, Big Barda, Wonder Woman and Batman!!!
It did rather suffer from Varying Power Level(tm), though.
Batman gets the crap beaten out of him by a being more powerful than Superman - and doesn't have a single injury. A groan, and he stands up and is fine. Despite being thrown through solid walls.
Darkseid is super-powerful, takes Superman out in half a second, like he's swatting a fly. Supergirl fights him for a while, but still loses. Then Superman comes back and beats the crap out of Darkseid.
I guess I'm complaining needlessly. It was pretty cool; I think my main bug was Batman going where near-gods could only go, and surviving for no reason whatsoever. Not to mention the jetpack he had, which he use to fly near the ground so the big mechanical dogs could eat him, instead of going, like UP, where they couldn't. Having a jet pack, and all. Not that it mattered, because nothing happens to you when then eat you, and you sit there for a while and wait for a dramatic moment to blow them up around you and stroll out unscathed - 'cos you weretougher than them all along. Or something.
Plus Batman can get hit by a Doomsday and not be jelly.
Oh, wait - no. Doomsday. Doomsday x 500. 1 x Doomsday = kill Superman. So how does 500 x Doomsday = Superman blasts them all away easily with his heat vision? Did he just think getting killed by Doomsday would be all emo and cool and stuff the first time round, but this time figured maybe he'd better use is 500x Doomsday killing power since he'd done the death thing before and it would be dramatically repetitive?
Oh, and how tough are those Amazons? So, they can kick Supergirl's ass in a duel; and are pretty good against Doomsdays. And Supergirl is apparently more powerful than Superman. So there's a whole island of women more powerful than Superman? And they just sit around eating grapes and having occasional dueling competitions? And Superman has any respect for their moral codes and stances (not that he has a choice, because they're all tougher than him).
Superman's supposed to be the greatest superhero, but he's clearly the weakest hero in this movie. He's a wimp compared to everyone else!
Batman gets the crap beaten out of him by a being more powerful than Superman - and doesn't have a single injury. A groan, and he stands up and is fine. Despite being thrown through solid walls.
Darkseid is super-powerful, takes Superman out in half a second, like he's swatting a fly. Supergirl fights him for a while, but still loses. Then Superman comes back and beats the crap out of Darkseid.
I guess I'm complaining needlessly. It was pretty cool; I think my main bug was Batman going where near-gods could only go, and surviving for no reason whatsoever. Not to mention the jetpack he had, which he use to fly near the ground so the big mechanical dogs could eat him, instead of going, like UP, where they couldn't. Having a jet pack, and all. Not that it mattered, because nothing happens to you when then eat you, and you sit there for a while and wait for a dramatic moment to blow them up around you and stroll out unscathed - 'cos you weretougher than them all along. Or something.
Plus Batman can get hit by a Doomsday and not be jelly.
Oh, wait - no. Doomsday. Doomsday x 500. 1 x Doomsday = kill Superman. So how does 500 x Doomsday = Superman blasts them all away easily with his heat vision? Did he just think getting killed by Doomsday would be all emo and cool and stuff the first time round, but this time figured maybe he'd better use is 500x Doomsday killing power since he'd done the death thing before and it would be dramatically repetitive?
Oh, and how tough are those Amazons? So, they can kick Supergirl's ass in a duel; and are pretty good against Doomsdays. And Supergirl is apparently more powerful than Superman. So there's a whole island of women more powerful than Superman? And they just sit around eating grapes and having occasional dueling competitions? And Superman has any respect for their moral codes and stances (not that he has a choice, because they're all tougher than him).
Superman's supposed to be the greatest superhero, but he's clearly the weakest hero in this movie. He's a wimp compared to everyone else!
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I don't think Darkseid was interested in killing Batman... Or even seriously injuring him. He wanted to call his bluff and get him to disarm the bombs. No reason to severely damage him.
Hmmm... Superman comes back and begins to beat the crap out of Darkseid only to end up being at Darkseid's mercy until Supergirl recovers.
God, I love that fight!
That being said, your complaints regarding Batman's jetback (which looks a lot like Orion's glider) are reasonable. I have no answer to that at all.
The only "caveat" I have is that this is based upon a comic written by Jeph Loeb at a time when he was writing a lot crap. Indeed, I think this adaptation is actually better than original (particularly the final fight).
I don't think these clones are as powerful as the original Doomsday. I'd have to check the comic to see if this is stated outright, but I do know that Darkseid started cloning Doomsdays and I suspect he intentionally made them weaker than the original.
Still, Supes's ability to atomize them (in this and the original comic) was a bit much.
[/quote]Oh, and how tough are those Amazons? So, they can kick Supergirl's ass in a duel; and are pretty good against Doomsdays. And Supergirl is apparently more powerful than Superman. So there's a whole island of women more powerful than Superman? And they just sit around eating grapes and having occasional dueling competitions? And Superman has any respect for their moral codes and stances (not that he has a choice, because they're all tougher than him).[/quote]
Actually, Supergirl is holding back against Artemis. Superman says so himself while watching the duel.
That said, the manner in which the Amazonians fight against the Doomsdays was... Well, it was kind of stupid. But so was Batman lasting as long as he did.
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