Not even going to touch this one, but I definitely wouldn't be surprised if my mom isn't receiving end of life counseling from Uncle Sam while I'm playing with my archaic books. I won't be joining the digital initiative, that's what I play MMO's for.
D&D in 2011: From Books to Digital
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Not even going to touch this one, but I definitely wouldn't be surprised if my mom isn't receiving end of life counseling from Uncle Sam while I'm playing with my archaic books. I won't be joining the digital initiative, that's what I play MMO's for.
TerraDave
5ever, or until 2024
Not to totally rehash what has been discussed elsewhere...
Obviously: They are also having problems with the digital side, hence all the steps to stop piracy. The only clear trend is an embrace of boxed sets.
Specifically: The problem with the essentials to DDI model is that it is too big a leap. From a few very clear and generally very good options to a great unweildy mass of stuff. This could be dealt with soley through DDI...but it would take some big changes they haven't made or really announced.
Generally: This isn't all some master plan. Its a scramble, and obviously quite a bit of key info has not and will not be passed on to us. I don't think we can be that confident on 2012 or even the rest of 2011.
Obviously: They are also having problems with the digital side, hence all the steps to stop piracy. The only clear trend is an embrace of boxed sets.
Specifically: The problem with the essentials to DDI model is that it is too big a leap. From a few very clear and generally very good options to a great unweildy mass of stuff. This could be dealt with soley through DDI...but it would take some big changes they haven't made or really announced.
Generally: This isn't all some master plan. Its a scramble, and obviously quite a bit of key info has not and will not be passed on to us. I don't think we can be that confident on 2012 or even the rest of 2011.
Castle Ravenloft is a great box of (unpainted) minis for $45. The fact that is is also a very good cooperative boardgame / D&D gateway product is a bonus.
Got any pics of these unpainted minis to see if their value would be worth buying more than one or even just one box of this "game" just for the minis?
All I see is it has 40 minis and costs $65.
Dire Bare
Legend
So, we are playing semantic games then.
Some purchasers will use them for the boardgame and nothing else. Many hobbyists will purchase the boardgame for the minis only, and never play the game. Others will do both.
AbdulAlhazred
Legend
They are just standard DDM minis, not new sculpts or anything. You can see them anywhere that has some minis lying around. I don't recall seeing a list of exactly what figures are in the box, but I'm sure you can find that online. There are several unboxing videos and reviews with pictures of the game around the net too. You can see the figures in those.
And, actually, at $65 bucks for 45 figures, it isn't bad. Obviously the collection is going to be mostly in the vein of undead type stuff, but probably a pretty decent mix for a lot of dungeon crawls and such. Not really a bad deal. The game has gotten pretty high marks too. You may actually want to play it!
Doubt I would want to play it, but minis at a price range of $1~2 each means the rest is packing material to protect the minis in the box and can be thrown away.
Videos not very helpful to me, I prefer a good statis image, which I havent been able to find as BGG has proxy and painted versions so I can't tell what to expect when opening the box, except fo the tiny images that look like someone took a pic of the back of the box.
I would think that would be a good use of their website to actually show the contents, but I gues after all these years, people still don't get how useful that could be to selling something if someone only wants it for part of its contents, rather than for the silly game they want to sell.
I will wait and see if I can ever find images of the contents, if it isnt around by the time I do, two lost sales for them!
PlastiCrypt :: Prepainted Miniatures Site
If you look around that site, you can also find (often better) pictures of the same miniatures in their pre-painted DDM versions.
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Peraion Graufalke said:
True enough. Though when I was preordering Castle Ravenloft from Amazon, the game was not a definite quantity. I could at least be sure that I could add the minis to my collection even if the rules turned out to be terrible.
It was a very nice bonus to discover how much fun the game is.
delericho
Legend
It would be madness for WotC to try to take D&D fully digital, or anything close to it. There are allegedly 1+ million people who play D&D (of some version) regularly. There are, what, 20,000 DDI subscribers?
You don't ensure the future of D&D by cutting off 98% of your existing player base. Even if they're not buying anything now, they might in the future.
And it really doesn't seem likely that DDI will pick up many more customers, certainly without a massive improvement in the offering.
You don't ensure the future of D&D by cutting off 98% of your existing player base. Even if they're not buying anything now, they might in the future.
And it really doesn't seem likely that DDI will pick up many more customers, certainly without a massive improvement in the offering.
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