Why do you disallow the base Bard but allow prestige?
Why do you ban the Walock, Beguiler, and Duskblade?
And just ooc, why do so many people hate on the Bo9S? I like it, it's fun, powerful, flavorful, even it doesn't make much sense.
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D&D 3E/3.5 What do you ban? (3.5)
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Why do you disallow the base Bard but allow prestige?
Why do you ban the Walock, Beguiler, and Duskblade?
And just ooc, why do so many people hate on the Bo9S? I like it, it's fun, powerful, flavorful, even it doesn't make much sense.
Dandu
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Haven't you heard? Warlocks are too anime and overpowered.
Ranes
Adventurer
It has nothing to do with power. It has everything to do with what fits in the kind of milieu I create.
In the case of the bard, I was motivated by wanting to retain something I developed back in the days of 1e, (when bards were a proto-PrC, ironically) and were considered by many (people in my campaign at least) as diplomats and spies. By their nature, they had to have accrued adventuring experience before they were suitably equipped for the missions their patrons would send them on.
Edit: oh, and warlocks are too anime and overpowered, of course.
In the case of the bard, I was motivated by wanting to retain something I developed back in the days of 1e, (when bards were a proto-PrC, ironically) and were considered by many (people in my campaign at least) as diplomats and spies. By their nature, they had to have accrued adventuring experience before they were suitably equipped for the missions their patrons would send them on.
Edit: oh, and warlocks are too anime and overpowered, of course.
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Bo9S was basically "Fantasy D20."
I think some people have yet to admit to themselves that they don't want a "fantasy" game, they want a "magic" game, and thus Bo9S shoved the differences between the two into their face.
Dandu
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Thoughts on the Prestige Bard, from the Unearthed Arcana?
I attack his life points directly, for great justice! Quiver in fear as my mighty Eldritch Spear penetrates your feeble defenses, in FAERUN!
Ranes
Adventurer
Let me get back to you on that. I'm still at work and have neither UA nor my bard document handy for comparison. And I wrote the thing in... when was UA published?
Indeed.
Nah, I just prefer the mechanics for maneuvers in Book of Iron Might and dislike the Bo9s mechanics.
Warlock: It has no place as a PC in the games I run and, for NPCs, I have the Thaumaturge from Green Ronin which covers a similar role.
Beguiler: It was ok. I won't ban it, but I would tweak it until I found a similar class that I liked better in another source.
Duskblade. I don't like the class. I prefer using the Battle Sorcerer from Unearthed Arcana or AEG's Myrmidon for warrior mages.
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Uhh, am I wrong, but is D&D not a fantasy themed game? Don't magic and fantasy go hand in hand? I thought I was playing in a world filled with magic slinging badasses and the Rootinest, Tootinest, Fightinest dudes you ever did see. Or am I playing a different game than you guys?
And why can't you reflavor it to be actual blade magic? I know the chapter is called "Blade Magic" in the book, but it is just the strikes, counters and boosts, why can't you just say it's actual blade magic? Who's to say that in some shrine somewhere, a group of badasses got together and created a new type of magic that used the weapons as focuses and material components and the verbal components are the yells involved with killing stuff?
