need help on integrating size AC modifier into ranged accuracy

[Dandu]

Hell, a level 16 fighter will also be able to survive orbital reentry and eat arsenic frosted flakes for breakfast, among other unrealistic things.

The last arrow travels 900 yards in 6 seconds (length of round) minus however long it too me to fire the first 3 arrows. Let's say I fire one arrow per second (with the first at the zero second mark). This would mean the last arrow traveled 900 yards in 3 seconds. That is 900 fps or nearing the sound barrrier without rapid shot or anything else.

If you assume it took me a second to fire the first arrow, then the last one traveled 900 yards in 2 seconds or 1350 fps BOOM.

If I may be pedantic for a moment?

What are you assuming the air temperature at the archery range is?

 

[kitcik]

If I may be pedantic for a moment?

Certainly.

What are you assuming the air temperature at the archery range is?

68 degrees Fahrenheit, with 83% humidity and a 3mph wind from the SSW.

I am assuming an orbital rotation, gravity and other similar effects of "earth-normal."

YMMV.

 

[Ashtagon]

That's the main problem. You're comparing different kinds of archery that require different things.

Hunting =/= Target Shooting =/= Flight Shooting.

Well yes, I am aware of the different styles of archery. Which is why I gathered various sources. But the fact remains that once you exclude the modern compound bows (the ones with complicated pulleys), no bow has a measured arrow velocity significantly in excess of 350 fps, if even touching that velocity.

As for that BAB +16 fighter, past level 6, in realistic terms you're pretty much past superhuman and into supernatural anyway, even if you are a mere fighter. I wouldn't read anything into his abilities at all.

And that last arrow? Quite apart from the fact that it won't arrive until well into the next round, it takes a -15 penalty for being the 4th iterative, plus a -32 penalty for being more than 16 range increments away (assuming Far Shot, composite longbow, and ignoring the rule about maximum 10 range increments). I don't know about you, but personally, I wouldn't bother rolling.

ETA: Since you are hung up on that speed of sound thing...

A composite longbow with Far Shot has, under RAW, a maximum useful range of 1650 feet. Assuming one second per shot, that means it is travelling 825 fps for the final shot, if it is to arrive within the same round it was loosed. This, too, breaks the known physics of bow technology by a considerable margin. If you're going to slam me for breaking physics with your aunt Sally arguments, don't forge to slam RAW for the same reason.

 

[kitcik]

Well yes, I am aware of the different styles of archery. Which is why I gathered various sources. But the fact remains that once you exclude the modern compound bows (the ones with complicated pulleys), no bow has a measured arrow velocity significantly in excess of 350 fps, if even touching that velocity.

As for that BAB +16 fighter, past level 6, in realistic terms you're pretty much past superhuman and into supernatural anyway, even if you are a mere fighter. I wouldn't read anything into his abilities at all.

And that last arrow? Quite apart from the fact that it won't arrive until well into the next round, it takes a -15 penalty for being the 4th iterative, plus a -32 penalty for being more than 16 range increments away (assuming Far Shot, composite longbow, and ignoring the rule about maximum 10 range increments). I don't know about you, but personally, I wouldn't bother rolling.

ETA: Since you are hung up on that speed of sound thing...

A composite longbow with Far Shot has, under RAW, a maximum useful range of 1650 feet. Assuming one second per shot, that means it is travelling 825 fps for the final shot, if it is to arrive within the same round it was loosed. This, too, breaks the known physics of bow technology by a considerable margin. If you're going to slam me for breaking physics with your aunt Sally arguments, don't forge to slam RAW for the same reason.

1) I am with you.
2) I am all about slamming RAW.
3) I was only trying to illustrate that the other poster's comment about the speed of sound was, in fact, RAW-based due to the limited time span of a round and the fact that every missile impacts in the same round it was fired under RAW.

 

[epicbob]

After FINALLY finding a discussion forum (archery-interchange) that went into detail about possible velocities of flight bows, yeah, it holds up to what was said about ~350 ft/s velocities.

So I must admit I stand corrected.