Pathfinder 1E What can 5e Give us that Pathfinder doesn't

[DonTadow]

I find it ironic, that the year I decide to return to Enworld (after leaving because of the edition wars), WOTC decides to make 5e.

IN any case, I was excited to hear the news. I feel like a had a girlfriend, and she dumped me for a newer hotter guy, and 4 years later she realizes that hotter guy is a little shallow and now is apologizing. Problem is, I've moved on to someone I am very compatabile with, and am now forced to think about what exactly I want now from my ex.

Now the question is, what can 5e give me that Pathfinder doesnt already?

And how do you keep the idea of 4e around (make the game easier to teach surely is not a problem)?

My personal things that I wish Pathfinder had.

I still find the spell system cumbersome and I'd love to see 5e ditch it for a point based system. I think you can keep the complexity in a less complex package.

Develop a better method for social interactions that combines rolling with role-playing.

I wish that there was an NPC generator for Pathfinder. It still is a pain to make my own NPCs.

 

[Vascant]

I wish that there was an NPC generator for Pathfinder. It still is a pain to make my own NPCs.

I am slowly working on a version of NPC Designer to handle that problem. Just had a wild few months that killed free time every moment I turned out. I've got a few of the data files done and hope to start working on scripts soon.

 

[Halivar]

I wish that there was an NPC generator for Pathfinder. It still is a pain to make my own NPCs.

Forgive my ignorance (not a PF player), but is PCGen not compatible with PF?

 

[DonTadow]

Forgive my ignorance (not a PF player), but is PCGen not compatible with PF?

PCgen doesnt allow me to push a button and spit out an NPC. NPC Designer does, was great for 3.5. But I"d love the type of digital connection we were promised with e-tools.

 

[Burrahobbit]

It's been said before, but simplification of the system for DMs while maintaining the flexibility and customization for players would be a laudable design goal.

I second the wish for a good social mechanic.

 

[DEFCON 1]

We have no idea what 5E can give you, because the game hasn't been designed yet.

 

[DonTadow]

We have no idea what 5E can give you, because the game hasn't been designed yet.

Thus the question is what doesn't Pathfinder have that we would want in 5e. In other words, what can 5e do to make me want to play 5e over Pathfinder. And not in a condescending way, but in a way that actually points out still inefficiencies in the Pathfinder system.

:because once they formally start taking requests, i'd be interested in hearing the type of request that are requested as features over Pathfinder, not neccessarily "new" features that pathfinder already covers

 

[mmadsen]

Now the question is, what can 5e give me that Pathfinder doesnt already?

My understanding is that Pathfinder is a slightly refined version of 3.5E. Unless you think that those refinements perfected D&D, there should be room for improvement. Even if you don't like 4E as a whole -- I don't, at all -- there could be plenty of elements that would improve your game.

 

[NewJeffCT]

I liked Pathfinder, but found that it had a lot of the problems that 3.5E had - it's a huge burden on the DM to prepare higher level encounters... picking 80-100 spells for a high level caster, adding magic items, templates and/or Prestige Classes, feats, skills, etc was a huge chore for me when I ran my 3.5E campaign and I didn't really see where Pathfinder fixed that for DMs.

While I don't love 4E, it was wonderful for me as a DM because I can prep two-three sessions of encounters in 1/10 the time it took me to prep one high level 3.5E encounter. Then, I can spend my limited free time on developing NPCs and expanding role playing opportunities for the characters.

If 5E can give me some of the feel of Pathfinder and old D&D, while maintaining the ease of use for a DM of 4E, I'd be a happy camper. (I'd like the default to be something like the inherent bonus system of 4E so you don't need to be draped with magic items by level 4/5...)

 

[Mallus]

Now the question is, what can 5e give me that Pathfinder doesnt already?

A different play experience. I say this with neither snark nor disrespect.