DC Comics Reboot

[victory12]

23, give or take. Most of which appear likely to be heavily affected by DC Heroes Reborn, and I am not sanguine about the changes being improvements. In fact, it seems likely that my favorite books won't exist (Simone's BoP & Secret Six, Power Girl, etc.).

When was the last time Jim Lee drew a monthly book, on time, for more than a handful of months? The Clinton administration?

I agree with Villano- Didio promises a lot, but the delivery & execution haven't always been there. They haven't been able to get away from stupid big event crossovers, with the requisite deaths of one or more B-characters (often minorities), or any of the other clinches that have been running through comics for the last decade or two. It's the same guys at the top, so why should this be any different?

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Part of the reason is because DC lost the rights to superman's origin story to the point were Lois Lane, Clark Kent, Daily Planet, Krypton, Supernman's Iconic S uniform, etc can no longer exist (but DC created elements of the characters related to Superman can).

The court's ruling goes into effect in a few months, so if the Flash Point triggered universe write is a perminant lasting change its only so that DC can properly own all of their origin stories/characters and prevent an other family's estate from regaining control of a character huge parts of a character's mythology. If not, then this is only part of the DCU retcon process and things will be back in about 5 or 10 years as per DCU's various "Crisises."
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[GMforPowergamers]

Part of the reason is because DC lost the rights to superman's origin story to the point were Lois Lane, Clark Kent, Daily Planet, Krypton, Supernman's Iconic S uniform, etc can no longer exist (but DC created elements of the characters related to Superman can).

if that is the cause...it is a major fail... maybe the most fail every.


the 'new' action superman is way closer to the action 1 superman then any that has appeared in the last 30 years

 

[GreyLord]

Did they really lose the ability to use the Superman back story...or was it a matter that they didn't want to actually pay anyone for the rights to use someone else's idea...so they still use the idea in a backhanded way while trying to weasel out of paying the rights for it?

 

[Villano]

Just to update this old thread...

Marvel Comics reclaimed the marketshare lead from DC Comics in December.

The publisher’s dollar share rose from 33.3% to 34.43% during the final month of 2011, while its rival’s declined from 34.69% to 33.74%.

Marvel also led the way in terms of units sold, increasing from 37.94% to 39.05%. DC fell from 39.66% to 37.72%, Bleeding Cool, reports.

DC deposed Marvel as marketshare leader in September following the success of its ‘New 52′ initiative. The publisher maintained its lead throughout October and November.

Marvel’s decision to release major titles during all five weeks of December is thought to have influenced the figures. DC rolled out few new comics during the final week of the month.

Comic sales as a whole saw a year-on-year increase compared to December 2010.

So, comic sales have improved in general, but DC is sliding back into 2nd place.

I also read somewhere that the sales of DC top tier titles are higher post-reboot, but the lower tier books are heading back to pre-reboot numbers. That seems to be true because...

In May of 2012, DC Comics will release a “Second Wave” of titles as part of its historic DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 initiative. Six new, ongoing series will build on the shared universe and bold concepts introduced in September 2011 with the renumbering of DC Comics’ entire line of comic books.

DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 “Second Wave” includes:

■BATMAN INCORPORATED – Writer: Grant Morrison. Artist: Chris Burnham. The acclaimed ongoing writer of ACTION COMICS, Grant Morrison, presents a fresh take on BATMAN INCORPORATED, in which the Batman brand is franchised globally in preparation for a major international threat.

■EARTH 2 – Writer: James Robinson. Artist: Nicola Scott. The greatest heroes on a parallel Earth, the Justice Society combats threats that will set them on a collision course with other worlds.

■WORLDS’ FINEST – Writer: Paul Levitz. Artists: George Perez and Kevin Maguire. Stranded on our world from a parallel reality, Huntress and Power Girl struggle to find their way back to Earth 2. Perez and Maguire will be the artists on alternating story arcs.

■DIAL H – Writer: China Miéville. Artist: Mateus Santoluoco. The first ongoing series from acclaimed novelist China Miéville, this is a bold new take on a cult classic concept about the psychological effects on an everyman who accidentally gains powers to become a hero.

■G.I. COMBAT – Writer: J.T. Krul. Artist: Ariel Olivetti. Featuring the return of a classic DC Comics series, THE WAR THAT TIME FORGOT, along with rotating back-up stories and creative teams – including THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER, with writers Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti and artist Dan Panosian; and THE HAUNTED TANK, with writer John Arcudi and artist Scott Kolins.

■THE RAVAGERS – Writer: Howard Mackie. Artist: Ian Churchill. Spinning off from TEEN TITANS and SUPERBOY, this series finds four superpowered teens on the run and fighting against the organization that wants to turn them into supervillains.

The six new series will replace BLACKHAWKS, HAWK AND DOVE, MEN OF WAR, MISTER TERRIFIC, O.M.A.C. and STATIC SHOCK, all of which will conclude with their eighth issues in April.

So, the six lowest titles are gone and replaced with six new ones. I admit that I'm a little saddened to see OMAC go. I read the first 2 issues digitally and enjoyed them. I do plan on finishing the run of it eventually.

Not sure how long any of the new titles will last. Well, aside from Batman Incorporated, that is. I might have been interested in Earth 2 and Worlds' Finest, but it looks like they intend to have the "Earth 2" characters simply end up in the mainstream DCnU. If that's the case, I don't really see the need to have an Earth 2 at all.

 

[Walking Dad]

This is very good news! I'm sad Blackhawks will go and all the Barman titles remain, but the remaining five titles were the ones I liked least.

BTW, the mystery woman from the first issues got a picture and a name: Pandora.

 

[Agamon]

BTW, the mystery woman from the first issues got a picture and a name: Pandora.

There's a joke or two in there, but they aren't grandma-friendly.

 

[Gentlegamer]

EARTH 2 – Writer: James Robinson. Artist: Nicola Scott. The greatest heroes on a parallel Earth, the Justice Society combats threats that will set them on a collision course with other worlds.

This is what I've been waiting for!

 

[Villano]

Newsarama has new more info about the upcoming Captain Marvel project "The Curse of Shazam". It's written by Geoff Johns and will run as a 10 page back up feature in Justice League.

Billy is now older (and looks to me kind of like a young Clark Kent), plus he's getting a new, redesigned costume. Also, the name "Captain Marvel" is dead...he's going to be called "Shazam" from now on.

No idea if he's still going to change by saying, "Shazam!" (not unless they want him to lose his power every time he introduces himself). And Johns said that Freddie and Mary will be part of the book, so does that mean we'll have Shazam, Jr and, um, Mary Shazam?

You know, every time I start having a slight interest in DC, they do something like this which reminds me why I hated the whole reboot idea to begin with.

 

[Walking Dad]

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No idea if he's still going to change by saying, "Shazam!" (not unless they want him to lose his power every time he introduces himself).
...

Captain Marvel Junior had a similar problem, changing by saying "Captain Marvel". This was highlighted as he was unable to introduce himself at a Teen Titans recruitment.

 

[Villano]

Captain Marvel Junior had a similar problem, changing by saying "Captain Marvel". This was highlighted as he was unable to introduce himself at a Teen Titans recruitment.

Cap villains IBAC and SABBAC had the same problems (in fact, tricking them into saying their names was how Cap usually ended up defeating them). Junior at least had "Junior" to fall back on (not that being a superhero named "Junior" is all that great ).

Anyway, DC had a Captain Marvel knock-off called "Captain Thunder" (who appeared in a Superman comic in the '70s), and there was talk that they would get away from the "Marvel" problem by simply giving Cap the Thunder name (since they own that). Personally, I wish they had.

Of course, there are rumors that they are totally revamping the character and he's going to bear no resemblance to the original Cap, so...I really don't know what to think.