"Necessary Evil" OOC

[Voda Vosa]

You got it wrong,
<PF>Lance [Fluff Name] ( Damage 4 (4 PP) [Power name] : STR based, Accurate 2 [Power feat] (2 PP), Homing 1 [Power feat] (1 PP), Penetrating 2 [Extra] (2 PP), Reach (Ranged) 5 (This is not a extra, it's a powerfeat, you got it confused with 2e. The extra is increased range, not range. This is the equivalent of Reach PF for 2e. It's 5 pp for this not 10 PP), Secondary effect 10[Extra] (10 PP) · 29 point/s

Range gives reach with the attacks, so he can skewer someone with a melee attack, or throw the lance.

 

[Walking Dad]

Reach 5 only increases your closed combat distance by 25' but doesn't turn the attack to a ranged attack. You still avoid the attack with your Parry trait and, as a close attack, you cannot get the Homing modifier for it, which is only usable with a Ranged attack.

Sorry for this confusion, but 3e's new name for "Power Feat" is just "Flat Value Modifier". All positive modifiers are called "Extras".

 

[Voda Vosa]

Reach (ranged) states that the attack becomes a short ranged attack, like a throwing weapon.

 

[Walking Dad]

Reach (ranged) states that the attack becomes a short ranged attack, like a throwing weapon.

No, it doesn't:

REACH FLAT 1 POINT PER RANK

Each time you apply this modifier to a close range effect, you extend its reach by 5 feet. This may represent a short-ranged effect or one with a somewhat greater reach, like a whip, spear, or similar weapon.

It says: "may represent" and "short-ranged effect", not "attack". I don't allow a 1 point flat mod to change Parry to Dodge and allow Homing. It may look the way (fluff), but I will not treat it the way for the rules (crunch).

 

[Voda Vosa]

Here's a screen capture of what I was speaking about.

 

[Walking Dad]

There are some changes and errors in the character creator. I posted the actual text from the rulebook, also available from this site: d20herosrd

There is no separate Reach (melee) and Reach (ranged) in the actual rules.

(I also saw that the Reaction mod misses the 3 point version, too.)

Edit:
The equipment section builds throwing weapons as ranged weapons, too:

WEAPON EFFECT CRITICAL COST
Bolos Ranged Snare 3 20 6
Boomerang Ranged Damage 1 20 2
Javelin Ranged Damage 2 20 4
Shuriken Ranged Multiattack Damage 1 20 3

 

[Voda Vosa]

Oh, that makes sense. Alright, I shifted those points and the homing point to penetrating extra and melee reach.

 

[Walking Dad]

Thanks! Nice to see a build at all. I hope you understand that this was nothing against you or your character. I just want to play by the book for the beginning. Still curiously awaiting the other PCs' 3e incarnations.

 

[Voda Vosa]

Not at all WD, I was just following the character generator, which turns out to be not the wisest course of action. hehe

 

[Thanee]

It's down to getting the powers written up and made 3e-compatible for me, the rest is done. So expect something soon.

Bye
Thanee