Incenjucar
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The art, especially with the gorilla poses, scream first person shooter to me. Remember that they DID mention something about a Chinese video game art company.
D&D 5E D&D Next Art Column Discussion: May
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The art, especially with the gorilla poses, scream first person shooter to me. Remember that they DID mention something about a Chinese video game art company.
Klaus
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Mercutio01
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Interesting. Jon's suggested list of guidelines hits all of my wickets.
As for violence/gore/etc, I voted for a PG-13 rating. To me, R treads too far and ends up with graphic nudity, splattered heads all over the page, and disemboweled victims screaming obscenities. PG-13 allows for just a hint of nudity (side boob, maybe a nipple--in context of course), death happens on screen, but is stripped of a lot of the actual gore that might be present, and the curse words stop at "damn" and maybe a "sh-t" or two.
Taking "A Game of Thrones" for an example -- it is decidedly rated R (or TV-MA, as the case may be--same thing, really), and that's more graphic than what I want to see in D&D game books. On the flipside you have PG movies/tv shows like "GI Joe" "Korra" and "Thundercats." The first is so PG (probably would get a TV-G) as to be borderline G. The latter two trend towards the middle of PG (TV-PG, I believe), but there's still no deaths on-screen, never any blood at all, and there aren't even simulated curses.
And D&D definitely has death, bladed weapons that actually hit home, cuts, bruises, etc. So that was my justification for PG-13/TV-14.
As for violence/gore/etc, I voted for a PG-13 rating. To me, R treads too far and ends up with graphic nudity, splattered heads all over the page, and disemboweled victims screaming obscenities. PG-13 allows for just a hint of nudity (side boob, maybe a nipple--in context of course), death happens on screen, but is stripped of a lot of the actual gore that might be present, and the curse words stop at "damn" and maybe a "sh-t" or two.
Taking "A Game of Thrones" for an example -- it is decidedly rated R (or TV-MA, as the case may be--same thing, really), and that's more graphic than what I want to see in D&D game books. On the flipside you have PG movies/tv shows like "GI Joe" "Korra" and "Thundercats." The first is so PG (probably would get a TV-G) as to be borderline G. The latter two trend towards the middle of PG (TV-PG, I believe), but there's still no deaths on-screen, never any blood at all, and there aren't even simulated curses.
And D&D definitely has death, bladed weapons that actually hit home, cuts, bruises, etc. So that was my justification for PG-13/TV-14.
delericho
Legend
That sounds pretty good.
My take on the "movie certificate" would be to go for PG-13 for the core (edgy, but not too edgy), while leaving open the possibility of a (well marked) darker imprint that heads into solid R territory.
First: LOVE the guidelines. I'm really looking forward to the art in the D&DN books now, which is not something I could have said about any earlier edition.
On the poll, I voted PG-13. While D&D ought to be tolerably family-friendly, this is a game rooted in the sword-and-sorcery genre. Elves and dwarves aside, there's a lot more Robert E. Howard than J.R.R. Tolkien. A certain amount of gore and scariness is definitely called for. And while I'm very glad to see D&D moving away from gratuitous cheesecake, I do think there should be some sexy art in the game. Just make it appropriate in context.
On the poll, I voted PG-13. While D&D ought to be tolerably family-friendly, this is a game rooted in the sword-and-sorcery genre. Elves and dwarves aside, there's a lot more Robert E. Howard than J.R.R. Tolkien. A certain amount of gore and scariness is definitely called for. And while I'm very glad to see D&D moving away from gratuitous cheesecake, I do think there should be some sexy art in the game. Just make it appropriate in context.
I'm A Banana
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It's not the most...clear...of distinctions. Especially internationally, or generationally -- it sort of carries with it a lot of weird sex-and-violence-and-message madness, and what was once PG is now PG-13, and what was once R is now PG-13. 
Like with this documentary about school bullying rated "R" for language that thus puts it out of reach of the very kids who are the subjects of the language in the first place.
And then you have things like a typical Pixar film which, despite being in the G to PG range, are more far more "mature" than your typical Rated R slasher flick.
That is, I think, going to lead a lot of folks to near the middle: PG's and PG-13's, probably a little skewed toward the latter, given D&D's high-school-and-college target audience.
But since the definitions are unclear, I'm not sure what that actually tells them. People who pick PG-13 might mean very different things by picking that.
Like with this documentary about school bullying rated "R" for language that thus puts it out of reach of the very kids who are the subjects of the language in the first place.
And then you have things like a typical Pixar film which, despite being in the G to PG range, are more far more "mature" than your typical Rated R slasher flick.
That is, I think, going to lead a lot of folks to near the middle: PG's and PG-13's, probably a little skewed toward the latter, given D&D's high-school-and-college target audience.
But since the definitions are unclear, I'm not sure what that actually tells them. People who pick PG-13 might mean very different things by picking that.
Mercutio01
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Yeah, that's why I laid out my reasoning for picking PG-13, and gave a range: More adult than "Korra" but less adult than "Game of Thrones."
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