D&D 4E redacted: WotC to print 4e Gold Limited edition rules, from 2d6 feet in a random direction.

Yeah, unfortunately I was under a rock when those came out, and missed them. Started looking a month ago and found the FFG Britannia and AWAW going for exorbitant prices! Happy to hear about the Kickstarter! Goes to show games never really die, I suppose.

A World at War was only reprinted a couple of months ago - but, it is terribly expensive. (It's a wargame and it has 10+ countersheets, plus a monster rulebook...)
 

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I'm sorry? Most board games and wargames get ONE printing, ever.
yes, but the perennial favorites don't get redesigned nearly so often, with the previous game kicked to the curb so to speak. When I played Battletech at an October convention, 20 years had passed since last I played it, and apart from minor tweaks it was the same game.
 

yes, but the perennial favorites don't get redesigned nearly so often, with the previous game kicked to the curb so to speak. When I played Battletech at an October convention, 20 years had passed since last I played it, and apart from minor tweaks it was the same game.
"Classic" BT may be the same, but is now considered kind of niche compared to the more popular spin-off games now, no? Not completely, totally unlike what happens to D&D and every other board/war/roleplaying game.

Man, I wish you could still get the Macross knock-off BT figs. :(
 

"Classic" BT may be the same, but is now considered kind of niche compared to the more popular spin-off games now, no? Not completely, totally unlike what happens to D&D and every other board/war/roleplaying game.

BattleTech has recently got a pretty big redesign in Alpha Strike, an alternative set of miniature tabletop rules for the game which make it much, much quicker to play. One of the reasons I like BattleTech is because it doesn't abandon the old material - it produces products for all eras - but it also isn't the force it once was.

Man, I wish you could still get the Macross knock-off BT figs. :(

One of the major reasons I backed Palladium's Robotech kickstarter - the minis are even in the same scale as those for BT! So, there'll be an option for you when it gets properly released in 2014. :)

Cheers!
 

If WotC doesn't want to support 4E anymore, that is fine with me. BUT, they should freely allow others to publish then, or turn it over to someone else. Let it go...
I'd like to see a reprint of the books, with all the errata corrected. Some of the mistakes in there are pretty stupid, and should have been spotted long before the books went to print.


Robotech minis? Do they transform? Or do you have to buy a different mini for each form of the mech.
I have some of my brother's old battletech minis in a box--they're on my list of things to paint when I get around to it. Have a Zentradi Officer's BattlePod, but lost the top cannon.
Would love to see those model kits re-released.
Heck, even the "go-bots" version of the kits would be fine.
 

I hope 4E does see perennial support. It's dumb to create a game, generate a fanbase, and then abandon it. It does seem WotC have seen the light in this respect.
4e didn't seem to generate sustainable sales the first time round. I can't imagine reprints doing much better.

But hopefully in 5 or 10 years Print on Demand technology will make it easier to just fire out Out of Print gamebooks. So people can always have access to their favourite products (and said products are a continual revenue stream).
 

If WotC doesn't want to support 4E anymore, that is fine with me. BUT, they should freely allow others to publish then, or turn it over to someone else. Let it go...
I'd like to see a reprint of the books, with all the errata corrected. Some of the mistakes in there are pretty stupid, and should have been spotted long before the books went to print.
What they should do is come out and say something like "we have no plans to end the GSL and have no intention of suing fan run websites for minor GSL violations."
Right now there's this fear (likely unwarranted) that the GSL could be yanked at any time or that WotC will come down on your site for having content in an electronic format other than a PDF or violating the "no rewriting rules" clause.
 


4e didn't seem to generate sustainable sales the first time round. I can't imagine reprints doing much better.

But hopefully in 5 or 10 years Print on Demand technology will make it easier to just fire out Out of Print gamebooks. So people can always have access to their favourite products (and said products are a continual revenue stream).
Yeah, who knows without any numbers. It certainly gets played a lot at conventions as far as I can tell. Who knows what is "sustainable" to WoTC.
I tend to disdain 4E mechanics, but as a fellow gamer, I hate to see its fans not satisfied. But 13th Age or something like that could do for it what Pathfinder did for 3.x

game on....
 

Yeah, who knows without any numbers. It certainly gets played a lot at conventions as far as I can tell. Who knows what is "sustainable" to WoTC.
I tend to disdain 4E mechanics, but as a fellow gamer, I hate to see its fans not satisfied. But 13th Age or something like that could do for it what Pathfinder did for 3.x

game on....

Yeah, despite some people's thinking otherwise 13a is NOTHING like 4e. PF is pretty darn close to being a 3.5 clone, you can play a 3.5 PC in PF basically, you can use material from either game together etc. 13a is an utterly different system with completely different design goals from 4e. There's no more resemblance between the two than there is between OD&D and 3.5, they're both basically 'D&D' in some sense.

4e still holds the title for the highest core book sales of any edition. I don't know how much that translates to "there are a lot of people who want more 4e stuff/reprints." As you say, its hard to say what is 'sustainable' to WotC, but its pretty hard to imagine that 1e reprints sell better than 4e stuff. 4e is still the current edition of the game. WotC sold some 1e reprints, but its pretty hard to imagine an ongoing SUSTAINED sales of 1e stuff at any volume. I think if they can identify a book they have rights to that they can sell profitably then they'll reprint it. Personally I think they'll do some 4e releases before too long. Its just too soon right now, you can still buy new stock without much trouble (aside from a couple of titles that probably wouldn't be included in a reprint/reissue anyway).
 

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