Even a bad MMA fighter is probably more than you can handle

[Janx]

How very samurai of you.

I'm Shroedinger's Black Belt. I know that I can beat you in a fight. But I also know that you can beat me in a fight.

I never got to the cocky stage of thinking I could beat everybody, or telling people I could beat them because I thought so little of their prowess. I despise that behavior when I see some advanced martial artists do it (I see it in juniors, but those guys are idiots). The reality is, you never know who's going to get lucky, or tricky.

But by all means, I've performed the computation on whether I could beat a person in a fight with just about everybody I've met. Outside of a specific conversation about martial arts, I don't feel it's right to belittle somebody about it.

The relevance to the topic, is this MMA guy is in a position of having superior fighting skills and he's facing chumps. He knows he can take these guys because he did the computation. Even if he's only won an official bout once. I've never won a karate tournament, but that doesn't mean I can't kick somebody's butt. It just means there's other people who can kick mine.

 

[Bullgrit]

I'm Shroedinger's Black Belt. I know that I can beat you in a fight. But I also know that you can beat me in a fight.

I never got to the cocky stage of thinking I could beat everybody, or telling people I could beat them because I thought so little of their prowess. I despise that behavior when I see some advanced martial artists do it (I see it in juniors, but those guys are idiots). The reality is, you never know who's going to get lucky, or tricky.

I have a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, and some lower level training in Karate and Jui Jitsu. It was all many years ago, and though much of the actions are ingrained in me from so much repetition during the training and practice, (like riding a bike?), such that I believe I could defend myself against most idiots who would for some reason want to fight, I have no doubt a professional fighter would be far too much for me to handle. Having up to date training and the personality to be a professional fighter -- serious aggression -- puts one above those who only trained in martial arts as a hobby. And against some untrained person, well, the pro might kill them.

In my training days, I found that the more I learned, the more I realized I had to fear from both better trained and untrained aggressors. A lot of time, it's the willingness to do harm to others that makes a lot of difference in a confrontation.

Bullgrit

 

[Zombie_Babies]

That's a great point. You can teach a hell of a lot to someone about defending themself but you can't teach them what it takes to actually do it: The combat mindset. Professional fighters are way, way more likely to have that in them, of course, but it's not guaranteed. Anyhoo, really meaning to do someone harm is the first - and most important - step.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

That's a great point. You can teach a hell of a lot to someone about defending themself but you can't teach them what it takes to actually do it: The combat mindset. Professional fighters are way, way more likely to have that in them, of course, but it's not guaranteed. Anyhoo, really meaning to do someone harm is the first - and most important - step.

I know people keep saying Torrez was a "professional" MMA fighter, but I think the only thing that made him a professional is that he got paid (probably very little) to fight a few times. The guy fought five times in four years. This was obviously not his main source of income. He actually worked as a construction worker.

That being said, yeah, he probably had the mind set that he had to hurt those guys. Still, he killed one guy by stabbing him. I'm not sure that's something that is taught to MMA fighters. A self defense class? Possibly. MMA training to be used in the octagon? I'd like to see what promotion was putting on that fight.

 

[Zombie_Babies]

So would I! Anyhoo, it's not really about what you use, it's about what sort of state of mind a situation like that requires.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

So would I! Anyhoo, it's not really about what you use, it's about what sort of state of mind a situation like that requires.

Or bath salts.

 

[Zombie_Babies]

True. Bath salts can sure put the will to fight into a man. So can krokodil, from what I've read. And it gives you scales.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

True. Bath salts can sure put the will to fight into a man. So can krokodil, from what I've read. And it gives you scales.

Bath salts vs crocodile, who will win? How many will die? Is this how the zombie apocalypse starts?

 

[Zombie_Babies]

Bath salts vs crocodile, who will win? How many will die? Is this how the zombie apocalypse starts?

We can only hope.