OotS 1000
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Deuce Traveler
Adventurer
Filler strip. j/k
Heh... ok, this was excellent and a nice #1000. Can't wait to see how this ends up, but I think Roy is overmatched here.
Heh... ok, this was excellent and a nice #1000. Can't wait to see how this ends up, but I think Roy is overmatched here.
delericho
Legend
Yep, but the devil is in the details:
[sblock]Roy doesn't have to win. He just needs to get (and keep) Durkon out of the room.[/sblock]
Scorpio616
First Post
The question is can Roy be the target of BUFFS from the other clerics? If so, he stands a fighting chance. Roy needs a Pro Evil and a Death Ward, ASAP
Heck Summon Proxie might be 9th level, breaking Durkula's concentration might be the win condition!
Heck Summon Proxie might be 9th level, breaking Durkula's concentration might be the win condition!
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Scott DeWar
Prof. Emeritus-Supernatural Events/Countermeasure
I am squirming in my seat here!!!!!
Celebrim
Legend
Roy's sword is undead bane, and vampires don't have a lot of hit points be 3e standards. Average attack damage by the sword is probably in the nature of 25 damage per blow. He's worried Xykon with it before, and Xykon as an epic lich has more hit points.
Roy's tactical ability is not to be underestimated.
But neither is the goddess Hel. She's obviously set this up. Hel's still smiling. She wanted Roy in the gallery and knew what he'd do. My suspicion is that she knows that Roy's attack is going to precipitate a war amongst the gods, and that this is also part of her plan. There are several clerics here that might intervene in ways that don't violate the terms of the treaty. Roy could receive buffs, which wouldn't violate the letter of the law. There is also one cleric here that might recognize Durkon, divine the fact that Durkon is possessed, and intervene to eject whatever is possessing him - which probably isn't a violation of the letter of the treaty either. All the gods are also watching. You've got a whole room full of beings with 30 WIS and 30 INT, including Loki.
In short, the room is filled with master tacticians. And that's not even counting the fact that the three arch-fiends could invoke their time sharing agreement.
But either twisting of the spirit of the treaty could trigger the faction supporting the "Yes" vote to intervene as well, and that would get nasty in a hurry. Moreover, she may be counting on this triggering a war between the Northern pantheon and the other pantheons, which is particularly likely if it is one of the elves that casts buffs. Hel is possibly maneuvering to be not only Queen of the Northern pantheon in the new world, but of the whole world. After all, Hel's real motives would consider remaking a living world to be 'Plan B'. Hel's ideal outcome is a dead and lifeless world and her as sole ruler for eternity.
The real question is does the real Durkon himself have an ace up his sleeve (See OotS #963). I think he was trying to set up something subtle, some way that the priest of Hel would make a mistake, some oversight that he would make in the plan. Maybe I'm crediting Rich with too much, but he's certainly done that sort of thing in the past.
UPDATE: Belkar's cloak if placed on Durkon would be a win button. (See OotS #969)
A less immediate win is removing the spell that protects Durkon from sunlight.
Durkon has also killed the head of the order hosting the event, so there is one group of clerics here that definitely considers the truce violated.
Roy's tactical ability is not to be underestimated.
But neither is the goddess Hel. She's obviously set this up. Hel's still smiling. She wanted Roy in the gallery and knew what he'd do. My suspicion is that she knows that Roy's attack is going to precipitate a war amongst the gods, and that this is also part of her plan. There are several clerics here that might intervene in ways that don't violate the terms of the treaty. Roy could receive buffs, which wouldn't violate the letter of the law. There is also one cleric here that might recognize Durkon, divine the fact that Durkon is possessed, and intervene to eject whatever is possessing him - which probably isn't a violation of the letter of the treaty either. All the gods are also watching. You've got a whole room full of beings with 30 WIS and 30 INT, including Loki.
In short, the room is filled with master tacticians. And that's not even counting the fact that the three arch-fiends could invoke their time sharing agreement.
But either twisting of the spirit of the treaty could trigger the faction supporting the "Yes" vote to intervene as well, and that would get nasty in a hurry. Moreover, she may be counting on this triggering a war between the Northern pantheon and the other pantheons, which is particularly likely if it is one of the elves that casts buffs. Hel is possibly maneuvering to be not only Queen of the Northern pantheon in the new world, but of the whole world. After all, Hel's real motives would consider remaking a living world to be 'Plan B'. Hel's ideal outcome is a dead and lifeless world and her as sole ruler for eternity.
The real question is does the real Durkon himself have an ace up his sleeve (See OotS #963). I think he was trying to set up something subtle, some way that the priest of Hel would make a mistake, some oversight that he would make in the plan. Maybe I'm crediting Rich with too much, but he's certainly done that sort of thing in the past.
UPDATE: Belkar's cloak if placed on Durkon would be a win button. (See OotS #969)
A less immediate win is removing the spell that protects Durkon from sunlight.
Durkon has also killed the head of the order hosting the event, so there is one group of clerics here that definitely considers the truce violated.
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Scorpio616
First Post
So do folks think Summon Proxie would be able to bypass Dimensional Lock? Because this all comes down to whether Roy can be Plane Shift'ed. It is one of the game's worst "
you"s for not being a caster.
If Summon Proxie can bypass Dimensional Lock, then the clerics would have such a spell active to block teleports and such. But if Summon Proxie can't bypass Dimensional Lock then there is no barrier for Roy to be sent off to the Negative Energy plane for a swift death, then undeath as a wight.
you"s for not being a caster.If Summon Proxie can bypass Dimensional Lock, then the clerics would have such a spell active to block teleports and such. But if Summon Proxie can't bypass Dimensional Lock then there is no barrier for Roy to be sent off to the Negative Energy plane for a swift death, then undeath as a wight.
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Celebrim
Legend
I'm not convinced Dimension Lock can interact with Summoning spells at all. It doesn't list them as prevented, and only has a clarifying note that it doesn't stop them from ending normally. Forbiddance on the other hand definitely does interact with summoning spells.
I don't think this matters much though, because Planeshift is just one of a long list of 'Save or Die' effects that Durkon could employ. Roy on the other hand is preparing to fight Xykon. He's almost certainly tactically optimized to face spellcasters and interrupt spellcasting.
I don't think this matters much though, because Planeshift is just one of a long list of 'Save or Die' effects that Durkon could employ. Roy on the other hand is preparing to fight Xykon. He's almost certainly tactically optimized to face spellcasters and interrupt spellcasting.
Falkus
Explorer
Hel doesn't know what Roy's doing, unless Durkon is communicating it to her. The gods can only see each other.
