D&D 5E Seriously, why no setting support?

[Irennan]

Someone earlier mentioned wanting the underdark. And we got the underdark in Out of the Abyss. There's a ton of generic Underdark setting material in that campaign. Which is how I think they're going. rather than republish all old material that's perfectly compatible with 5e again, they're combing the changes into a campaign path adventure

Oh, nvm. You typed Undermountain, so I thought you meant Halaster's dungeon under Waterdeep, not the Underdark.

 

[ccs]

What I need is 5e versions of all the mechanical parts of the setting, which in the cases of Eberron, Dark Sun, Planescape, at least, are a pretty big part of the setting. I can convert pretty well from 3.5 or 4e to 5e, but I'm not 15 anymore. I don't have that kind of time.
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So you take whatever time you'd use to write these threads about "Why won't WoTC produce book xyz" & you convert a little bit (whatever you actually need for the game your running) at a time.
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to work for your game....

 

[Acr0ssTh3P0nd]

So you take whatever time you'd use to write these threads about "Why won't WoTC produce book xyz" & you convert a little bit (whatever you actually need for the game your running) at a time.
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to work for your game....

To be fair, it takes a lot more time to make a bunch of good, balanced conversion material than it does to write a post about why you want more material.

You saw my post about Deadworlds, right? That took me a year (on a university student's tight schedule) to get all that stuff to the point where it is now. It's easy to make new material, but iteration and polish take time. I must have made and posted a least three or four different versions of the "heavy metal" bard before I was anywhere near satisfied with it.

Now, I'm personally fine with WotC's release schedule abnd treatment of the settings, because I trust the team to get around to doing certain things *eventually*. The D&D brand is the current moneymaker, not the books, so the D&D team's priority is on doing what's healthiest for the game (since the game is the heart and core of the brand). So we'll probably continue to see fewer releases, but each release will be top quality and do nothing but add to the quality of the game. When Eberron finally releases, I have no doubt it'll be fan-fudging-tastic.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

So you take whatever time you'd use to write these threads about "Why won't WoTC produce book xyz" & you convert a little bit (whatever you actually need for the game your running) at a time.
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to work for your game....

It took 20 minutes to make this thread.

Not comparable.

and I can respond to a thread while I wait for the kettle to boil, or a while cooking, or on my 10 minute break at work, etc.

and it requires vastly less energy to discuss something like that compared to creating and iterating a game element.

And im already building an entire game from the ground up.

And I have a full time job, a wife, and a social life.

So, no. That doesn't solve anything. Thanks.

 

[hawkeyefan]

I'd expect anything related to the settings to be low priority for them. Unless they can figure out a way to present the material in some way that is more useful to a wide audience.

They must realize that the surveys are mostly completed by more long time and/or diehard fans. So yeah, the demand per the survey might be high, but will people buy a Dark Sun or Ebberon book in numbers like the sales of other books so far? Probably not.

Using the DMGuild as a means of releasing such material seems like a decent idea, but they haven't really done that for anything other than the AL stuff so far. For whatever reason, they seem reluctant to release things that way.

I wouldn't mind some setting based info myself, but I prefer it to come packaged with something else, along the lines of Curse of Strahd and Ravenloft. I love Planescape and Dark Sun, and I'm using both in my current campaign. If they put material out for either, I'd probably pick it up...but until then, I'm managing with what I have already and homebrewing the rest. WotC probably realizes that as well; so much material already exists for these settings that it's tough to come up with something new that doesn't seem like a rehash except with 5E mechanics.

 

[dave2008]

So, talking a bit about this in the UA thread, but... @mearls has mentioned on Twitter just yesterday that he is doing...something with Torog, a 4E Dawn War deity.

Could you explain how you got from a quote about Torog to...

My suspicion, which had been a popular hypothesis here on the boards, is that the Big Book of Crunch will actually lend crunch support, for DMs and players, for all these settings: the Mystic, the Artificer (maybe including Runecaster, Alchemist and Shaman subclasses...), Warforged, Dragonmarks, Kender, Wizards of High Sorcery, spelljammimg vessels, Defilers...

 

[Parmandur]

Could you explain how you got from a quote about Torog to...

Logically, the former is just one of the lines of evidence; this is a theory about the nature of the major rules expansion people have been bandying about for awhile; Artificer getting those subclasses is something [MENTION=697]mearls[/MENTION] has discussed, in the very survey results in the OP of this thread even, they have talked about other settings, and explicitly said some of the UA material was made with other settings in mind, etc.

 

[Parmandur]

Things we do specifically know:

1. They are working on a new product that is a major expansion of the rules.

2. Said expansion will involve new feats, spells, races and subclasses if not a few new classes (namely, Mystic, Neo-Ranger and Artificer).

3. They have been testing DM rule varients for a while in the UA (totally random chargen, new encounter building guidelines, mass combat support, etc...)

4. They want to support other settings, and much of what is in 2 and 3 explicitly ties into that goal.

 

[pukunui]

[MENTION=6704184]doctorbadwolf[/MENTION]: For the record, rules for dragonmarks *are* in the Eberron UA article. They're at the very end, so you might have missed them.

 

[Dkamanus]

People think converting things is something quick and easy. It ain't.

Here's to hoping the update all scenarios to 5e. I want to explore them within the context of the 5th edition. That is more than necessary to me, which has started play only in 2007. I want more, but I don't want to dig stuff older then 3.5, which has a text formatting quite strange and boring compared to 5th edition, which are books much more interesting and fun to read.