D&D 5E [GUIDE] Pacts, Patrons, and Power, a Warlock guide

[tclayton]

Hello,

Thanks for the guide and for keeping it updated.

I had a couple of questions that I hope have not been already answered. I tried searching the thread, but it just hung. These are very basic.

How are you getting the bonus attack with Crossbow Expert? Improved Pact Weapon does not included hand crossbows from my reading and if you are fighting with another type of crossbow it isn't one-handed to get the bonus action attack. I feel like I'm missing something obvious.

Also, the guide talks a lot of advantage. Is this just through Devil Sight+Darkness or are there other approaches at lower levels?

EDIT: Also curious about what you say that Eldrich Smite improves if you multi-class. You specifically can only use warlock spell slots with it. So, I don't see how multi-classing helps.

I appreciate it!

Thanks,
Todd

 

[mellored]

What about blindsight though? Heavily obscured means blinded, and blindsight means immune to blindness (i.e. doesn't rely on sight to "see" things).

Hmm..... not sure. It probably doesn't fool blind sight.

Not sure how many creatures like that though.

 

[mellored]

How are you getting the bonus attack with Crossbow Expert? Improved Pact Weapon does not included hand crossbows from my reading and if you are fighting with another type of crossbow it isn't one-handed to get the bonus action attack. I feel like I'm missing something obvious.

You're correct. I'm the one who missed something.
Though, it still works if you find a magic handbow.

Also, the guide talks a lot of advantage. Is this just through Devil Sight+Darkness or are there other approaches at lower levels?

Just that.
Or shadows of Moil at mid leves.
And foresight at high levels. (with elemental weapon as the buff).

Perhaps I talk about it too much.

EDIT: Also curious about what you say that Eldrich Smite improves if you multi-class. You specifically can only use warlock spell slots with it. So, I don't see how multi-classing helps.

Missed that too. Seems like it was intentional this time.
[MENTION=4036]Jeremy[/MENTION]ECrawford
Eldritch Smite works with warlock spell slots only—the ones you get from Pact Magic. #DnD

But you can still use other spell slots to get advantage, or get advantage from raging, or monk stunning, or fighter trip attacks, or shield master pushes, or whatever.


I will update, thanks.

 

[mellored]

I think the damage comparison should include the normal case of not having advantage.

I finally did this.

Damage math is updated and better organized.

 

[Ovarwa]

I finally did this. Damage math is updated and better organized.

Awesome. I enjoy reading your guides and perspectives.

 

[TheOneGargoyle]

I finally did this.

Damage math is updated and better organized.

I might be misreading it, but did you also update the polearm one for hexblade + blade pact ? Cos it looks like it's still an 18 Str one for pre-hexblade. Or did I miss something ?

 

[tclayton]

I will update, thanks.

Thanks for the clarifications. I appreciate it.

Todd

 

[Asgorath]

Hmm..... not sure. It probably doesn't fool blind sight.

Not sure how many creatures like that though.

I asked Jeremy Crawford on Twitter to clarify if it works against truesight and blindsight, hopefully he'll respond.

 

[Zmajdusa]

Drow come with Faerie Fire, gives everyone advantage to hit affected creatures, and Darkness, each once per day.

 

[mellored]

I might be misreading it, but did you also update the polearm one for hexblade + blade pact ? Cos it looks like it's still an 18 Str one for pre-hexblade. Or did I miss something ?

Those numbers are for hexblades.

I was thinking that a non-hexblade blade with 18 Str and 18 Cha would deal the same damage as a hexblade with 18 Cha.
But, You can't get 18 Str, 18 Cha, and the feats by level 12. So non-hexblades would be a few points lower.

I will clarify.