Is Pathfinder 2 Paizo's 4E?

[robus]

Again? I’m starting to think this is deliberate, Zurdner.

Well autocorrect does like to do it’s (god damn it, seriously?!) job... poorly

 

[Tony Vargas]

Well autocorrect does like to do it’s (god damn it, seriously?!) job... poorly

Once you get it trained, you better be careful if you ever want to send a letter to Morris Plains, NJ.

(A letter, who am I kidding...)

 

[Zardnaar]

Again? I’m starting to think this is deliberate, Zurdner.

Yeah I keep calling you a British car.

Just checked it's auto correct on the phone. Type in Morrus and it becomes Morris.

 

[zztong]

With DMsG out there, it’s worse for third parties than the d20 boom was. I’m excited about our TRAILseeker launching this week new PF2 material.

What's is DMsG?

At first I thought it was a typo for DMGs, but it appears its not a typo.

 

[Aldarc]

What's is DMsG?

At first I thought it was a typo for DMGs, but it appears its not a typo.

DMs' Guild.

 

[eyeheartawk]

Better to starve free then be a fat slave?

You have to keep in mind Paizo's history. Pathfinder becoming a thing had more to do with how their business was dependent on WoTC and then was suddenly cut adrift. Controlling your own product and ecosystem gives you obviously more control over that.

Plus, didn't they just crowdfund Kingmaker for 5e? I don't think they're ignoring the 5e market completely. It's not like they can't give that a bigger go if PF2 fails. This is of course also assuming that Paizo will make a killing in the 3PP which I'm not so sure of, given the glut of meeeehhhhhhh products currently floating in that DM's Guild ocean.

 

[DM Howard]

Pathfinder 2E might as well be Paizo’s 4E as far as I am concerned. They went overboard (IMO) whilst opening up the patient for surgery and abandoned backwards compatibility at the same time. I am not willing to buy a whole new set of books when my friends and I have already spent loads on 3.5/Pathfinder 1E compatible material. Hopefully another company picks up the 3.X torch.

 

[Tony Vargas]

. Hopefully another company picks up the 3.X torch.

There's certainly no legal impediment to that...

...considering, though that PF1 is already more lavishly-supported than any single ed of D&D, what, exactly, would they light with that torch?

I mean, for instance, is there any conceivable fantasy character concept you can't currently build within PF1?

 

[Aldarc]

I mean, for instance, is there any conceivable fantasy character concept you can't currently build within PF1?

A grognard character who has something nice to say about a new system?

 

[DM Howard]

7643671[/URL]]There's certainly no legal impediment to that...

...considering, though that PF1 is already more lavishly-supported than any single ed of D&D, what, exactly, would they light with that torch?

I mean, for instance, is there any conceivable fantasy character concept you can't currently build within PF1?

I’m not sure, to be honest, but I feel that there is always something new that can come out for PF1. New adventures, monsters, archetypes, settings, etc.

What I would say is that I would hope for a new torchbearer as once a game disappears from active publishing it becomes exponentially harder to find games or recruit new players. Everything is anecdotal, of course, but I can’t remember the last time I saw a 4th Edition game or 4th Edition products being sold in store or games being actively played/recruited for. The same can be said for virtually all discontinued editions.

Edit: All my railings against my perceptions of PF2 aside they are just that, perceptions, and I will be giving PF2 a fair shake as 5th Edition just doesn’t cut it for me. I only hope that Paizo has thrown the proverbial baby out with the bath water with their implementation of PF2.