What is Greyhawk?

[Hussar]

Clarification?

Heh, you caught me as I was editing.

 

[Coroc]

@Coroc - Must be nice. :'( Wish I had players that cared.

Hell, I just had a player lose his cool and walk out of our group and one of the bitches that he had was the fact that I actually DO take the time to embed my characters in the setting. Called me a spotlight hogging so and so.

It really is frustrating sometimes. All I can do is continue to lead the horses to water.

Darn, I have players who require lots of spotlight also, and who do not feel well if they cannot present their characters in a meaningful way. Luckily my group is very mature, and some other guy might get some more combat orientated spotlight another time.
Maybe your fellow players actually was greedy for your well done representation of you char. Still everybody wants to shine now and then even the most quiet player and I had some similar "conflict " where it was a topic that both player x and player y require a lot of "master-time" for themselves.

 

[Zardnaar]

If I ran FR outside of a 5E AP I would revert back to 1357 DR or maybe the 3.0 timeline.

I would apply the same logic to pre inhuman war Spelljammer, Pre grand conjunction Ravenloft, pre Dragons of Summer Flame Dragonlance, pre From the Ashes Greyhawk, pre Prism Pentad Darksun.

Burn the while lot down go back to the original. Here's this new campaign world that's interesting, nvrmind they just blew it up.

Or just give me some Baltika 9 makes all sorts of things not matter.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

@Coroc - Must be nice. :'( Wish I had players that cared.

Hell, I just had a player lose his cool and walk out of our group and one of the bitches that he had was the fact that I actually DO take the time to embed my characters in the setting. Called me a spotlight hogging so and so.

It really is frustrating sometimes. All I can do is continue to lead the horses to water.

I find that wanting to know deep lore about a game is very easily predicted by what sort of game/edition the first 1 to 3 campaigns someone played in were.

If those games were d&d and older than 4e (especially if older than 3e but you start signifficantly seeing it at the former cut off at least) its much more common to find players who do this. Ive noticed it isnt an age thing for the most part too.

Also i actually have no clue why this is a thing ive noticed...ummm...maybe because of how patterns of informational availability intersect with plot and the justifications thereof? Yeah. Actually i really have no idea.

 

[S'mon]

If I ran FR outside of a 5E AP I would revert back to 1357 DR or maybe the 3.0 timeline.

I would apply the same logic to pre inhuman war Spelljammer, Pre grand conjunction Ravenloft, pre Dragons of Summer Flame Dragonlance, pre From the Ashes Greyhawk, pre Prism Pentad Darksun.

Burn the while lot down go back to the original. Here's this new campaign world that's interesting, nvrmind they just blew it up.

Or just give me some Baltika 9 makes all sorts of things not matter.

I definitely prefer "fixed time point" settings like Wilderlands to 1990s style "Metaplot timeline" settings.

I recently ran some AD&D 1e FR set in 1358 DR and that was a lot of fun.

 

[Zardnaar]

I definitely prefer "fixed time point" settings like Wilderlands to 1990s style "Metaplot timeline" settings.

Same I think most of the settings offered something interesting in the initial boxed set. Then the hacks and freelancers got hold of it.

 

[Coroc]

I find that wanting to know deep lore about a game is very easily predicted by what sort of game/edition the first 1 to 3 campaigns someone played in were.

If those games were d&d and older than 4e (especially if older than 3e but you start signifficantly seeing it at the former cut off at least) its much more common to find players who do this. Ive noticed it isnt an age thing for the most part too.

Also i actually have no clue why this is a thing ive noticed...ummm...maybe because of how patterns of informational availability intersect with plot and the justifications thereof? Yeah. Actually i really have no idea.

Yep, my experiences can confirm that. At least afaik the D&D editions most of my players including myself came into contact first was 1e 2e 3e. But they did some 4e too afaik although no one started with it.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yep, my experiences can confirm that. At least afaik the D&D editions most of my players including myself came into contact first was 1e 2e 3e. But they did some 4e too afaik although no one started with it.

Same locally it's mostly 5E and the old salts are 3E.

There's a few ex AD&D players but I'm almost unique that I never stopped playing from AD&D to 5E.

 

[QuentinGeorge]

Dragonlance was far, far better the bigger the more distance it put between itself and the War of the Lance. The novels tended to suck the originality and creativity from any play in that era. There were far more interesting concepts explored further down the road. Unfortunately a large part of the player base kept trying to drag the world back to its original state - a mistake in my view.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

Players and dms shape games and game settings
But it goes a little the other way around too
Maybe this is one of those things @Hussar
Maybe its one of the examples of when the game actually primes people to be affected in some way instead of the other way around. Such situations exist. Doesnt even have to happen every time. If it happens some of the time thats enough to cause a noticeable shift in general trend.