D&D 2E Darksun converted to 5e, trying to be true to 2e

[Coroc]

Darksun I think less is more.

Did you copy my old thread in regards to mapping some 5E subclasses to classes from 2E?

As do i, i am total old school in that.
I did work on it independant of you for a long time, but it was in no shape to post here. I got some inspiration from your thread, and shamelessly integrated it into this , i think i copied the idea to take standard domains for the elemental clerics, but i honestly cannot tell you anymore for which other stuff i did get my ideas, either on doing it like you or to find a different solution.

 

[Zardnaar]

As do i, i am total old school in that.
I did work on it independant of you for a long time, but it was in no shape to post here. I got some inspiration from your thread, and shamelessly integrated it into this , i think i copied the idea to take standard domains for the elemental clerics, but i honestly cannot tell you anymore for which other stuff i did get my ideas, either on doing it like you or to find a different solution.

I posted my stuff, don't care if people mine them.

It was mostly placeholder stuff, ideally elemental domains could be done along with template domain which would have some wizard spells like lightning bolt in it.

 

[Coroc]

I posted my stuff, don't care if people mine them.

It was mostly placeholder stuff, ideally elemental domains could be done along with template domain which would have some wizard spells like lightning bolt in it.

My main intention was to have something to usable and to my taste, and I think that even if wizards brings out something like official 5e darksun for me personally it very likely would need almost as much work to shape it to my taste, as doing it homebrew, thereby checking out what other people had done on this forum, and stealing it if I like it.

I also want that people take my ideas and if they want to alter them it is also cool, after all that's part of the fun off DM.

In a way I do it the same with official products

And yes I agree, wizard spells reshaped as domain spells are the best solution, also to keep it simple and balanced.

I wonder if it is possible to recreate the 2e elemental cleric a bit better, maybe restricting spells other than elemental to 5th level or lower? What do you think?

 

[Zardnaar]

My main intention was to have something to usable and to my taste, and I think that even if wizards brings out something like official 5e darksun for me personally it very likely would need almost as much work to shape it to my taste, as doing it homebrew, thereby checking out what other people had done on this forum, and stealing it if I like it.

I also want that people take my ideas and if they want to alter them it is also cool, after all that's part of the fun off DM.

In a way I do it the same with official products

And yes I agree, wizard spells reshaped as domain spells are the best solution, also to keep it simple and balanced.

I wonder if it is possible to recreate the 2e elemental cleric a bit better, maybe restricting spells other than elemental to 5th level or lower? What do you think?

The gave clerics access to the cosmos sphere later iirc. Ideally you would have a Darksun unique spell list with a lot of elemental spells on it.

Or design a DS specific new class that's a bit closer to the 2E elemental clerics.

Quick and dirty though domains. I have flame, stone domain, tempest and life and be air and water.

 

[Coroc]

The gave clerics access to the cosmos sphere later iirc. Ideally you would have a Darksun unique spell list with a lot of elemental spells on it.

Or design a DS specific new class that's a bit closer to the 2E elemental clerics.

Quick and dirty though domains. I have flame, stone domain, tempest and life and be air and water.

The perfectionist in me doesn't want the water cleric to be able to cast flame strike, but rather ice storm, if the standard domains apply, at least such minor detail needs to be fixed.

 

[Zardnaar]

The perfectionist in me doesn't want the water cleric to be able to cast flame strike, but rather ice storm, if the standard domains apply, at least such minor detail needs to be fixed.

I meant they would have spells relevent to the element.

There's enough spells from 2E and Xanathars to cobble together a decent spell list.

Making a priest class could also work, but replacing level 6-9;spells with elemental ones (gate as well maybe). Poach a few Druidic or arcane ones if need be.

2E Tome of Magic and Spells and Magic had expanded Elemental Spell lists.

 

[Raunalyn]

How do you handle Defiling?

 

[lowkey13]

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[Delazar]

If you want, have a look at my Conversion Notes. We've been playing a Dark Sun Campaign (Fury of Freedom) with 5e rules since 2017, and it's working very well!

 

[Coroc]

How do you handle Defiling?

It is also what created much of the wastelands Darksun now is.
It is working on all things living. It should be drastic. Not only plants dying but also living beings taking damage.
Defiling is a mainly NPC thing for enemy defilers and but for the PC party preserver it can be an emergency last resort act.

So i would suggest that all plants wither around the caster and every living being takes 1d4 necrotic damage per spell level on a failed constitution save. 0 if the save succeeds, because it should be totally resistable, that is what the preserver always does "the other way round" when casting, i hope you get what i try to express.
Radius would be 30 feet / spell level the save dc is the dc of the caster.
If it is a spell lasting more than 1 round the damage continues respective it requires another save.

Has to be playtested a bit but i believe that works. If some higher being, e.g. a sorcerer king defiles then the damge and radius should be bigger. Defiling should never discriminate between freind and foe, so allys of an freind or enemy caster would get damaged as well eventually, so there is always a price to pay.

Now to the effect for the spell to be cast. I guess everything can be game here. form reroling all 1s and 2s on the damage dice to metamagics. I still have to think about that a bit what might be best.