Is Pathfinder 2 Paizo's 4E?

[Remus Lupin]

And your statement is provably wrong,

I disagree.

 

[Imaro]

I disagree.

Doesn't change facts.

 

[Remus Lupin]

For me, the bigger thing is...Backgrounds. There are hundreds of thousands of characters in the PHB based on Race/Subclass/Background combinations, before you even consider the totals for Ideals/Bonds/Flaws. That stuff is more interesting for making different characters to me.

Sure. That's there. It really doesn't do much for me. Again, I'm thinking here primarily of what's available in terms of class options. I'll agree with respect to backgrounds there's a lot to work with there, but I'm just not fond of the implementation.

 

[Remus Lupin]

Doesn't change facts.

That's right, and I still disagree.

 

[Imaro]

For me, the bigger thing is...Backgrounds. There are hundreds of thousands of characters in the PHB based on Race/Subclass/Background combinations, before you even consider the totals for Ideals/Bonds/Flaws. That stuff is more interesting for making different characters to me.

Yep more ways the "3 flavors" can be expanded. Apparently @Remus Lupin has a group that all play the exact same 3 characters in every class with the same 3 subclasses, the same backgrounds, the same skill selections, the same weapon/spell choices, the same race, the same... well you get the idea... oh and some options just aren't considered because...well because

 

[Remus Lupin]

I'm sorry the fact that I am not fond of the way 5e handles this, and the fact that it provides what I consider to be limited and unexciting options causes you so much personal angst. But the fact remains that this is how I feel about it. I'm always at a loss as to how people think they can sarcasm their way into changing someone's mind on such things.

 

[Parmandur]

Sure. That's there. It really doesn't do much for me. Again, I'm thinking here primarily of what's available in terms of class options. I'll agree with respect to backgrounds there's a lot to work with there, but I'm just not fond of the implementation.

That's fair, I suppose. Feats do nothing for me in terms of establishing a character, so different strokes.

 

[Imaro]

I'm sorry the fact that I am not fond of the way 5e handles this, and the fact that it provides what I consider to be limited and unexciting options causes you so much personal angst. But the fact remains that this is how I feel about it. I'm always at a loss as to how people think they can sarcasm their way into changing someone's mind on such things.

Again, as I stated before... it's not about how you feel... it's about you making false statements. And it's no angst for me I was just trying to educate you in case you honestly thought there were only 3 flavors of every class in 5e...

 

[Remus Lupin]

That's fair, I suppose. Feats do nothing for me in terms of establishing a character, so different strokes.

Exactly.

 

[Remus Lupin]

Imaro, ignored.