D&D 5E Chris Perkins drops 2020 hint!

Coroc

Hero
I myself like to imagine that Athas (Dark Sun) is the future of Oerth (Greyhawk).

They feel closer together in tone to me.

Does not fit very well with greyhawk (or any other official campaign world i am aware of)

spoiler, only read if you are not playing as a player in DS campaign:






Halflings where the absolute predominant race back in Athas past. On Athas they are basically the source of all life
 

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Bitbrain

Lost in Dark Sun
Does not fit very well with greyhawk (or any other official campaign world i am aware of)

spoiler, only read if you are not playing as a player in DS campaign:

Halflings where the absolute predominant race back in Athas past. On Athas they are basically the source of all life.

I said I like to imagine Athas is the future of Oerth.

While official lore might say the Halflings are the progenitor species, I prefer Athas’ past to be an almost complete mystery.

All that really matters (in my opinion) is that arcane magic and genocidal wars engulfed the planet and damaged the ecosystem.
Then the Dragon of Tyr arose and burned the world, leaving Athas forever afterwards in the sorry state we know today...
 

Coroc

Hero
I said I like to imagine Athas is the future of Oerth.

While official lore might say the Halflings are the progenitor species, I prefer Athas’ past to be an almost complete mystery.

All that really matters (in my opinion) is that arcane magic and genocidal wars engulfed the planet and damaged the ecosystem.
Then the Dragon of Tyr arose and burned the world, leaving Athas forever afterwards in the sorry state we know today...

Well i see your intent eventually, if you e.g. would play some campaign in oerth then lateron play some campaign in DS with the same players, you could let the players find things they are familar with.

Sounds tempting, but it is only good for out of character amusement and has the danger that the players try to get clues using their player knowledge of the past world.

You can get the same effect by adding some rare past artifact which clearly comes from the past and is unknown in the in game time, but is not related to something the players are familar with (but not the characters)
 

Other crystal spheres (if we use the concept from Spelljammer) or D&D worlds couldn't suffer that fate if gods don't allow it, not only gods about nature, but who protect their favorite race, they wouldn't allow a genocide. Even the infernal lords wouldn't allow their names fallen in the oblivion because they want those sinner souls for their own domains.

Githyankis were in DS and in the second try they noticed it was too hard to be conquered, but this doesn't mean the end of the visits. Maybe because it is too dangerous it could be like a trap against other faction, with a plan as "the treasure is in the other room". And I believe it is possible some natives from Athas could go before genocide wars. Or a secondary effect to the planar gate was being sent to a far future.

And if you want a future Oerth as DS only you have to recover the concept of time sphere from AD&D Chronomancer, like crystal sphere but set in an parallel world or uchrony. This would allow new options to create stories. Even this could be used as excuse for possible error of continuity in mass media adaptations.

Don't you miss the native genasies from DS what appeared in 4th Ed?

If the metaplot in DS continues and Borys is dead, and the rest of regions are "unlocked".... what will happen? I mean this could be like in a MMO where PCs after leveling up can visit harder zones... but D&D stories aren't "the monster of the next season will be stronger", this is not Dragon Ball. If some sorcerer-kings are killed, the new potential antagonists can't be only new faces with a higher challenger rating or power level.

How do you imagine the rest of the planet? And not only the dead land with its undeads.

* Ravenloft needs a good excuse to allow new "sandbox" domains. Maybe somebody want to use some ideas from other horror settings as "Obsidian Apocalypse" by LPJ Design, Shadow over Shatak by Fat Goblin Games or Kaidan by Rite Publishing. Somebody after killing hordes of zombi German shock troopers in Call of Duty will want to create a new domain as a secret laboratory with panzer-punk look. Other option is some worlds or at least some limited zones aren't within the demiplane of dread but they can be cursed or influenced indirectly by the dark powers, for example sending people as "trojan horses". Let's imagine a group of PCs escape and go to an unknown world ruled by a tyrant. They start a rebellion but this fails. At least the wear causes they regiment is weaker to resist a new attack for a second faction, with a pyrrhic victory, and then they are defeated by a new group of rebels whose origin is the land of the mists again.

* After reading an article about stagecraft technology used in the Mandalorian serie I guess making medieval fantasy movies will be cheaper than now.
 


Urriak Uruk

Gaming is fun, and fun is for everyone
If the metaplot in DS continues and Borys is dead, and the rest of regions are "unlocked".... what will happen? I mean this could be like in a MMO where PCs after leveling up can visit harder zones... but D&D stories aren't "the monster of the next season will be stronger", this is not Dragon Ball. If some sorcerer-kings are killed, the new potential antagonists can't be only new faces with a higher challenger rating or power level.

Dark Sun's "metaplot" is dead and buried. 4e nearly fully reset the setting back to right after Kalak was overtthrown. 5e will likely start in that exact same period, or slightly after.

If I released Dark Sun as a setting book in the style of Rising from the Last War, I would actually have a redone version of that module in the book (the one where Kalak is overthrown). That's a pretty good start to a Dark Sun campaign.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Dark Sun's "metaplot" is dead and buried. 4e nearly fully reset the setting back to right after Kalak was overtthrown. 5e will likely start in that exact same period, or slightly after.

If I released Dark Sun as a setting book in the style of Rising from the Last War, I would actually have a redone version of that module in the book (the one where Kalak is overthrown). That's a pretty good start to a Dark Sun campaign.

They've already killed the Greyhawk metaplot for Ghosts of Saltmarsh, and yeah, I would expect the same for any setting brought into 5E.
 

Urriak Uruk

Gaming is fun, and fun is for everyone
They've already killed the Greyhawk metaplot for Ghosts of Saltmarsh, and yeah, I would expect the same for any setting brought into 5E.

Agreed. The metaplot is only really maintained if it actually had people who actively follow it (looking at you Forgotten Realms). The metaplot for both DS and GH was abhorred however, and rightfully should be abandoned.

I'm not entirely sure what will happen to Dragonlance however, as the War of the Lance is the iconic time period, but I don't think Wizard's wants to entirely abandon the books. They might put in a timeline or something and recommend points in time for people to use.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Agreed. The metaplot is only really maintained if it actually had people who actively follow it (looking at you Forgotten Realms). The metaplot for both DS and GH was abhorred however, and rightfully should be abandoned.

I'm not entirely sure what will happen to Dragonlance however, as the War of the Lance is the iconic time period, but I don't think Wizard's wants to entirely abandon the books. They might put in a timeline or something and recommend points in time for people to use.

It's been ten years since the book line ended. I suspect they will want to do some sort of conversion of the original modules ala Ghosts of Saltmarsh, as they are the one really wdly successful game product for the setting.
 

Arnwolf666

Adventurer
It's been ten years since the book line ended. I suspect they will want to do some sort of conversion of the original modules ala Ghosts of Saltmarsh, as they are the one really wdly successful game product for the setting.

Krynn needs adventures that bring out the possibilities of the setting imho. But if it is all the “shared experience” that people want then maybe just an updated adventure letting players play through the war of the lance is all that is needed. not sure really. I just know what I want and like.
 

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