Unearthed Arcana Why UA Psionics are never going to work in 5e.

[Aldarc]

It's not a false dilemma. It's the TRUTH.

Cut the crap, Paul. It's a plain and simple false dilemma that's trying to present me with the dilemma of either liking it or not getting psionics while ignoring all possible alternatives that could exist.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Cut the crap, Paul. It's a plain and simple false dilemma that's trying to present me with the dilemma of either liking it or not getting psionics while ignoring all possible alternatives that could exist.

You mean wait another three years and hope they come up with something else?

Because NO OTHER ALTERNATIVES EXIST.

If it reaches 70% overall approval, but people rate individual powers low, then it might get further revision.

 

[Aldarc]

That's fine if that's the outcome. Your false dilemmas are not. Trying to pressure me into giving it a satisfactory rating is also not.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

That's fine if that's the outcome. Your false dilemmas are not. Trying to pressure me into giving it a satisfactory rating is also not.

I'm not specifically trying to pressure you - I'm just pointing out why it's rejection is pretty much inevitable. If you are prepared to wait another three years in the hope that something you like better will come along then I commend your patience.

Is 70% an unfair arbitrary high bar? Yes it is, but I didn't set it, WotC did.

 

[FlyingChihuahua]

Cut the crap, Paul. It's a plain and simple false dilemma that's trying to present me with the dilemma of either liking it or not getting psionics while ignoring all possible alternatives that could exist.

Honestly, I believe 5e Psionics are on real thin ice at the moment, considering how many times they've tried to do it and how basically all those attempts have failed for some reason or another.

I honestly think it's getting to a point where it's only gonna be a token effort so they can get a Dark Sun book out.

 

[Aldarc]

Then it will be rejected. So what?

 

[FlyingChihuahua]

Then it will be rejected. So what?

Well then it'll be like the fourth version of Psionics to be rejected by the community.

And there comes a point where you're basically just trying to break down a brick wall with your bare hands.

 

[Aldarc]

Honestly, I believe 5e Psionics are on real thin ice at the moment, considering how many times they've tried to do it and how basically all those attempts have failed for some reason or another.

Much as Remalithis said here or elsewhere, one of the core problems - which I did put in my feedback - is that WotC is trying too hard to reinvent the wheel with psionics (e.g., Mystic, psi dice) and that they should consider try receiving feedback on simpler approaches.

But lying just for the sake of having something is not a satisfactory approach to things. So why should I say that it's satisfactory if I'm just lying through my teeth?

 

[Guest 6801328]

It's not a false dilemma. It's the TRUTH. There is a minimum 70% approval required for any subclass to be included. That is a hard fast non-negatable number.

So...you don't think that if something hit 60%, but that 60% averaged overwhelmingly positive, and the staff themselves loved it, they might break their own rule?

I do.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

So...you don't think that if something hit 60%, but that 60% averaged overwhelmingly positive, and the staff themselves loved it, they might break their own rule?

I do.

We can but hope.