D&D 5E Rogue’s Aim+Mount

[Eis]

If your first response to finding a whole floor made a solid, smooth gold is to put roller skates on a donkey, you, sir, are a better man than I.

oh no, not FIRST response.....this was a result of lots and lots of careful testing

 

[Fenris-77]

oh no, not FIRST response.....this was a result of lots and lots of careful testing

Lots and lots of careful testing is a euphemism for stripping the floor down to bare rock, right?

 

[Oofta]

There are no rules for controlling a mount, it does not cost the PC any actions or movement. So by strict reading of the rules you could do this. Move, have the mount stop, fire, and continue moving would be technically legal.

In a home game I'd say you have disadvantage if the mount uses it's dash action ... but the mounted combat rules aren't particularly robust.

 

[Pauln6]

There are no rules for controlling a mount, it does not cost the PC any actions or movement. So by strict reading of the rules you could do this. Move, have the mount stop, fire, and continue moving would be technically legal.

In a home game I'd say you have disadvantage if the mount uses it's dash action ... but the mounted combat rules aren't particularly robust.

I sort of feel that being able to aim from a moving vehicle or moving mount should be the stuff of a feat. Maybe an add on to the mounted combat feat?

 

[Fenris-77]

I sort of feel that being able to aim from a moving vehicle or moving mount should be the stuff of a feat. Maybe an add on to the mounted combat feat?

If horse archery were easy everyone would be doing it. Never mind firing from the deck of a ship at sea. This does point at a soft spot in the rules, which really do lack detail for mounted combat. I think that's by design though. I'm pretty sure Animal Handling is supposed to cover those applications when it becomes necessary.

That said, I would rule that riding a moving mount is movement, regardless of who's feet are moving. A Feat would be a good way to buff that, for sure.

 

[Oofta]

I sort of feel that being able to aim from a moving vehicle or moving mount should be the stuff of a feat. Maybe an add on to the mounted combat feat?

I don't disagree and that would be a good way to do it. Just saying that by the rules there is no problem with it.

 

[Pauln6]

I don't disagree and that would be a good way to do it. Just saying that by the rules there is no problem with it.

Yeah I've never been a fan of using RAW where it's clear that they violate the spirit of RAI. Admittedly, it isn't always as obvious as this one.

 

[jgsugden]

I'd allow aiming so long as you're not being pushed around in an uncontrolled fashion by the thing you're on that is moving. Riding a horse, donkey, etc... likely too much movement. Being on a ship, a flying carpet, a gliding animal... I'd likely allow.

 

[Oofta]

Yeah I've never been a fan of using RAW where it's clear that they violate the spirit of RAI. Admittedly, it isn't always as obvious as this one.

I'd probably give disadvantage to someone moving and doing ranged attacks, particularly if the mount is taking the dash action.

I just like to point out when things are house rules sometimes.

 

[Pauln6]

I'd probably give disadvantage to someone moving and doing ranged attacks, particularly if the mount is taking the dash action.

I just like to point out when things are house rules sometimes.

I suppose it would not be unbalanced because with disadvantage, the Rogue is just making a normal attack with no sneak attack.