Fair enough, you always consider them.
But, you do recognize that on this thread, people say "the core four". A phrase which seems to be very much tied to Tolkien. After all, if you wanted to make the Fellowship of the Ring, all you need are humans, elves, dwarves and hobbits. A habit in the community so pervasive that even people who don't consider those four races the exclusive "core" adopt the term.
Thanks. Gotta say if I wanted to refer to Tolkien, I would just invoke Middle Earth or his name, such as "It's like Middle Earth," or "Picture Tolkien's world." Why core four came about when there is already a standard in place is beyond me.
Yeah, I'd be skeptical. Maybe not, depends on a lot of factors, but I've known people to lie to shut down conversations they don't want to have, so I try to keep that in mind.
I have read some of your experiences. And if I were in your shoes, I would be right along with you. I would be skeptical. Very skeptical. Fortunately for me, I have had almost all positive experiences.
So, I get that you don't mean them negatively, but these don't address the issue at all.
The issue at question is the DM has spent 100+ hours building their world, and how can you ask them to do more, complicating factor, the DM builds the world before the game.
So, find a different table? That DM has also built their world before the game and likely spent 100+ hours on it, so there is literally no change in your situation.
Join a different game online? Same thing, world already built. 100+ hours, you still can't ask them to change.
I just reread my post and I definitely did not make myself clear. I meant that, in my experience, there are so few DMs that have done that work (like 10-20% maybe), that the other 80% of the tables are open. They are the buffet. That has been my experience. Most DMs allow almost anything. A few have put in a a lot of work and limit things. Sorry for not being clear.
Basically, from my vantage point it is easy for a player to just go find one of the 80%ers out there.
But none of this addresses potentially changing things. And, like I said above, if the premise you are presenting is that the DM shouldn't be asked to change, because they already did so much work, then the player is kind of left with no recourse. You present this question like the player's who ask are over-stepping, but you seem to forget that the DM building alone, with no input from anyone else... has no chance to get input from anyone else. Players literally cannot ask until the DM has already put in the work, unless they get lucky enough to know a DM, who is starting to worldbuild, and is willing to listen.
That is not how it is meant to be taken. And I have probably stated fifty time (but I know, it is a long thread) that a player should ask. They should. And the DM should work with them. But view it with my 80% experience. Even if, somehow, this is the only table they can play on, and it is part of the 20% that do the work and limit races, then ask. And if the DM can't. Then ask for the inclusion of whatever race or class you want to be included in the next campaign. This way the DM has time to add them. And if they don't after having a six months to find a way to include them, then they are not the table for that player. They want a different playstyle. And that is okay.
Do you realize that adding the context of the community, drag queens, who are stereotypically known for that phrase being used in a positive light basically just proves my point?
In this community, that term has a meaning that is fairly clear to all of us who have been discussing. You aren't in a seperate community where that term is used differently, so being shocked someone took it negatively is kind of mind-blowing to me. I mean, if I went to a sunday church sewing group and talked like a drag queen, they probably aren't going to take it as a compliment.
We are in a separate community. Geeks. And ask any Geek outside of the few on this forum, ask them what the Mos Eisley's Cantina is and they are likely to hum you the song and have a smile on their face. And I used drag queens to be funny, because I just watched the show with my wife and heard the phrase. I could have just as said, Will Farrell or my niece using the phrase and the context and connotation would have the exact same equivalency - bitch being used in a positive light.