Firefly Reconsidered: Why Firefly Isn't "Hall of Fame" Great

[Thomas Shey]

Edit: You know what, Snarf, go ahead and have the last word. Just don't expect me to take the blame because you can't walk away from an argument.

 

[dragoner]

Well, the great truth is almost any story based on the losing side in a revolution or civil war that valorizes the losers is likely based at least in part on cherry picking what they decide to keep. The Confederacy is particularly fraught because of how bluntly awful it was, but its true to one degree or another with virtually all of them (the Jacobin insurrection comes to mind, as anything using it or something based on it is probably going to be--selective--to say the least). At best, most revolts are based on a mixture of legitimate grievances and really obnoxious prejudices, and you rarely see anyone want to deal with the latter part of that.

Sure, and as an American, you do you. Though I should mention that using terms like Lost Cause and apologia to a European and their mind will likely come to rest on the Germans and WW2, which is a bad place to be. I mean context is king.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Its not my obligation to walk away from a discussion because you don't like it.

No. You've made your position quite clear. You don't walk away from anything. I'm done.

 

[dragoner]

You are probably right, but the one thing I've learned is the quickest way to a fight is to assert the supremacy of BBQ.

(The best BBQ I ever had was years ago at a rib place in Memphis, but the overall best is Texas. Although ... I know sauce is heresy, but Carolina sauce is good ...)

Truth though, the vinegar BBQ sauce is also a favorite of mine.

 

[MGibster]

Truth though, the vinegar BBQ sauce is also a favorite of mine.

Boo!

 

[Thomas Shey]

Sure, and as an American, you do you. Though I should mention that using terms like Lost Cause and apologia to a European and their mind will likely come to rest on the Germans and WW2, which is a bad place to be. I mean context is king.

Sure. And its not an unfair comparison, honestly. Attempts to justify the Southern Confederacy deserve every bit as much contempt as trying to justify Nazi Germany, and the one thing I'll agree with Snarf about here is that there's a history of trying to do that in the U.S. that rightly has some people have their tolerance mighty low.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Truth though, the vinegar BBQ sauce is also a favorite of mine.

There is something almost magical about it!

Since we're on a much better subject- you know what else is good? Burnt ends. I know it's all trendy and stuff now, but they are to die for!

And going back to your first post- it's a truism that the fanciness of the BBQ place and the quality of the BBQ are inversely related, right?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Boo!

What?

Are you a BBQ purist (no sauce) or just that sauce?

 

[MGibster]

Are you a BBQ purist (no sauce) or just that sauce?

A good BBQ doesn't need sauce but a good sauce can compliment a good BBQ. I prefer the sweeter sauces for the most part.

 

[payn]

There is something almost magical about it!

Since we're on a much better subject- you know what else is good? Burnt ends. I know it's all trendy and stuff now, but they are to die for!

And going back to your first post- it's a truism that the fanciness of the BBQ place and the quality of the BBQ are inversely related, right?

Chicken Thighs are the poor mans ribs! Dont forget about em.

Also, Vinegar is bomb, molasses is nasty.