D&D General Thaco the angry clown... really?

[Ralif Redhammer]

I think lots of people sing the praises of Goodman Games, Necrotic Gnome, Exalted Funeral, and Melsonian Arts Council, to name a few.

So, what are you doing to laud the good OSR people?

I'd say the very existence of the aforementioned Goodman Games' OAR indicates otherwise. Not to mention their own Tales from the Yawning Portal and Ghosts of Saltmarsh, and countless nods to the past and deep lore dives that show up throughout 5e.

What is Wizards doing?

Oh, that's right, they're making the OSR movement feel unwanted.

Oh how I love that bugbear illustration! Perfectly seasonal right now, too.

Yes, yes it is.

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[DarkCrisis]

This I think is true. And one reason I really like 5e.

Good article! I agree with him about how old school was more lethal and DMs meant to be impartial and modern D&D is more superheroic and laid back.

When I play 5E I never worry about surviving a combat. And even if I do get laid out, Revivfy and a nights rest is there to fix all my problems. When I play AD&D Im much more worried about the combat and try to play smarter. Both are valid ways to play.

 

[Mistwell]

Or the last video they made with Venger about the TSR v762 thing. Or the whole thing with them supporting Zak S. Wasnt also in many picture and vids with neo-nazi (or Klan members) some years ago?

I guess their account was pirated by Russian hackers, right?

Wait, who are you accusing of being in videos and pictures with neo-nazi's and/or KKK members some years ago? That seems like a very strong allegation if you're unsure.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Wait, who are you accusing of being in videos and pictures with neo-nazi's and/or KKK members some years ago? That seems like a very strong allegation if you're unsure.

Edit:
As @Mistwell said. My memory was faulty, there's not photo nor video of Pundit at some american rally.

 

[darjr]

Ah never mind

 

[This Effin’ GM]

Wait, who are you accusing of being in videos and pictures with neo-nazi's and/or KKK members some years ago? That seems like a very strong allegation if you're unsure.

Here is what I can say for certain: he called a white supremecist a hero on his blog.

yes yes I know yes he claims he said it was before we knew the man at Berkeley be a white supremecist. But, fun fact, he knew full well that the person MAY be a white supremecist when he wrote it, acknowledged he wasn’t sure, but felt comfortable enough to take the stance of “that person is a hero regardless” because he was angry that the woman came looking for violence against nazis.

He points out as evidence that she deserved being punched because on her Facebook she came looking for 100 nazi scalps to a “free speech event”. Note that in his addendum, he removes the word Nazis from her quote, likely to maintain that he was right to condemn her.

He calls himself a journalist (see: blog) but couldn’t wait to give his public opinion before the research was done on the white supremecist. Yeah. Like any good journalist.

She attempted violence against a white supremecist, someone he claims to hate and distance himself from, but doubles down on she deserved being hit by him because…she did exactly what she said she was going to do and went after a white supremecist.

There’s no way around it. He lauded a white supremecist. He later defended a white supremecist. He condemned someone taking action against one. He later doubled down on that same condemnation claiming there was no way for her to know that man was a white supremecist.

Mmmhm. I mean HE knew the dude could be one and admitted as such and he wasn’t even AT the event, but ok sure there’s No WaY sHe CoUlD hAvE mOrE iNfOrMaTiOn ThAn He. Mmhm. Probably cause he’s a journalist.


Whatever. He can say he condemns those types of people (white supremecist) all he wants. And maybe he believes that’s true. Certainly his defenders believe it to be true.

But he will happy cheer when an anti-nazi is punched in the face for confronting a white supremecist and he will march alongside a neo nazi, just as long as the nazi doesn’t ask him to do nazi things.

one thing I want clear: this is all information from his blog. This isn’t me regurgitating someone else’s interpretation as fact. These are his words and his actions alone

 

[Keefe the Thief]

Oh, we are on page 24 already. So, what did we find out? Do D&D players have a sense of humour? Can we revise history and say that Thac0 was actually a good idea? Should we rename the NPC to "BAB the better rules solution"? Are white supremacists actually naughty words? (the answer to this one is easy, at least: to hell with them). And which of my questions guarantees another 24 pages?

Oh, sorry. If I don´t post at least one relevant fact based on my own opinion, this could qualify as a drive-by. So: "if you are offended by Thac0 the clown, you need another coffee".

 

[Faolyn]

I think the pipe is something specific, because Thaco makes it his Bond and is extremely protective and reactionary about it.

Maybe the bubbles are zeroes.

Did Gygax or Arneson smoke a pipe?

 

[This Effin’ GM]

Did Gygax or Arneson smoke a pipe?

Was smoking SOMETHING when he created tomb of horrors that’s for sure

 

[Warpiglet-7]

Good article! I agree with him about how old school was more lethal and DMs meant to be impartial and modern D&D is more superheroic and laid back.

When I play 5E I never worry about surviving a combat. And even if I do get laid out, Revivfy and a nights rest is there to fix all my problems. When I play AD&D Im much more worried about the combat and try to play smarter. Both are valid ways to play.

For me it scratches different itches. Though to 5e’s credit: if you dial it up you can make it more lethal and capture some portion of that old feeling.

that said, for a while I thought I wanted to go back to AD&D 1e. And maybe I will do some of that again…but 5e has done enough right that I coming back to it….

whatever it’s flaws, they have made a lot of really good decisions and I feel like I have barely scratched the surface.

1e kept me feeling that way due to the super slow advancement and quest for treasure but 5e has really done it with many “new things” just over the horizon and the evocative character developing infrastructure.

but I would get into AD&D again. We played becmi with my youngest and had a blast.

I could probably have some fun with any edition. Man I just like to play.