D&D General I can't understand why Gygax split a given stat into Str and Con

[le Redoutable]

He could join them into a Toughness stat couln't he ?

( that would be of help to us designers who could easily add a Energy stat to deal with Magic
so the six stats would be
Charisma
Dex ( and/or Manoeuvrability as a sub-stat )
Intelligence
Nrj
Toughness
Wisdom
;

next we would marry the six stats two by two

CxD ===> Acrobat ( . )
CxI ===> General ( or Warlord ?? ) ( . )
CxN ===> Cleric ( yes, I have dropped my Necromancer substitute; still there will perhaps room for Ninjutsu/Assassin )
CxT ===> Fighter ( . )
CxW ===> Ruler ( . )
DxI ===> Ranger ( . )
DxN ===> Bard
DxT ===> Hunter ( . )
DxW ===> Monk ( . )
IxN ===> Illusionist
IxT ===>
IxW ===>
NxT ===> Elementalist ( that is, Invoker/Evoker )
NxW ===> Druid
TxW ===> Brute ( . )

that's it for today

 

[Morrus]

You can combine all 6 into “Awesomeness”. Or split them into a thousand very specific categories. 6 abilities is as good a number as any.

 

[Oofta]

People make the mistake all the time that people with a lot of muscle are incredibly healthy. There's a correlation between them, but overall physical fitness has little to do with muscle mass. In addition constitution is also a measure of endurance, which body builders frequently suck at.

But as Morrus said, there's many ways to do it. It's about as good as any.

 

[le Redoutable]

yes yes, note that you produce a multiclass by choosing three compatible classes ( which is Ad&d compliant ) like
CxD + IxN + TxW

also, to be a little more understandable, Cha could be relabelled to something like Prestige or Might ...

 

[le Redoutable]

People make the mistake all the time that people with a lot of muscle are incredibly healthy. There's a correlation between them, but overall physical fitness has little to do with muscle mass. In addition constitution is also a measure of endurance, which body builders frequently suck at.

But as Morrus said, there's many ways to do it. It's about as good as any.

I wonder if , in a fantasy setting , there are lots of Body-Builders ( joke )

 

[le Redoutable]

I wonder if , in a fantasy setting , there are lots of Body-Builders ( joke )

still, there are Brutes and Tanks

 

[le Redoutable]

the food for Athletes is Ambition;
also elves tend to have good fitness, but as I remember they have low CON ( ?? )

 

[le Redoutable]

so what you call Fitness should appeal to Dex ( compatible with Elves' +1 to Dex )

 

[AOieiosle]

Being athletic isn't the same as being tough - and being able to function while dealing with pain isn't the same as being physically strong.

 

[le Redoutable]

Indeed I can tell you that my squeleton rules are ok ;
unfortunate to me I lack the proper combinations;
I would be glad ( really ! ) if you, old veterans, cleansed up my data ( included also is the BASE subsystem )

because
as you always notice, I always come up to almost the same combos ( )
( that's makes me sooo sad snif! )