D&D 5E 2022 WoTC Books?

[Parmandur]

I find new Kamigawa more interesting then Dominaria (although maybe Brother's War set will change my mind), but I think you right if they sneak a MtG setting in it will Dominaria, it just has the bigger market/fan base and it's just too core to the MtG setting and identity not to do.

I am curious what kind of fiction the Brother's War set will have given it is a card set for a story that has already been told (in a novel by FR's own Jeff Grubbs that I hear is one of the best in MtG history), unlike all the rest of the sets with a particular setting next year. Maybe they will do some fiction for Unfinity and Battle For Baldur's Gate or extra fiction for Dominaria United instead.

Well, if I had to hazard a guess: time travel.

 

[Marandahir]

I really wish I could take such a blase look at the book as "REALLY bad erotica", but the book reeks of ephebophilia-apolgia couched in fiction. One defense that Kelman uses is: "Technically, all the girls in the book are legal. They are young women, they are not children. Many of them are precociously sexual and some of them are predatory, too. No one comes out of the book that well.' Sure thing, Nic.


Sure, sure, I'm guilty of using hyperbolic shorthand for the ephebophilia-apolgist whose book is extremely distasteful. However, that doesn't dismiss my retort to Paul—which, I will repeat, that according to W&H's legal complaint, everything was progressing swimmingly until WotC replaced their liason with Kelman.

Sure. I agree it's extremely distasteful, and if I understand you right, could be propping up and supporting grooming/predatory behaviour in its reader base. It also could just be fiction, and fiction is NOT the same thing as reality, as horrible as the acts depicted are.

But again, I know next to nothing about the guy, so I'm really not trying to dismiss your critique of him or his book. I was spitting out just what came up from googling him for 30 minutes and writing a post before I had to run to work, because these things do seem to get heated with speculation about the causes and whatnot.

The fact of the matter is, we've got the Dragonlance books coming out after all, and there's no reason to think that all that drama should prevent them from releasing a Dragonlance Setting Guide IF WotC so chooses. And ONLY if they choose. I doubt they're doing more than Fizban's. THAT's the Dragonlance book, imho. But this Nic guy's book he wrote a long time ago is VERY tangential to whether Dragonlance is one of the 2022 settings. In fact, I think it's non-material.

 

[Marandahir]

While its certainly good on that side, the thing is I'm unsure on the basis that the MTG settings we've had thus far are very distinctive as their own thing. Theros is unmistakably different from anything in D&D, same with Strixhaven, and while Ravnica isn't too different, it does hold it in its own ways. I'm unsure if they'd be able to get that much of "Distinct from stock D&D" with Dominaria compared to those. I'm not sure if they'd be willing to blur the lines that much

Kamigawa also runs it into being a bit more of a modern thing which, would certainly be an interesting way to get across that vaguely modern D&D stuff, but I'm equally unsure on that one

I find new Kamigawa more interesting then Dominaria (although maybe Brother's War set will change my mind), but I think you right if they sneak a MtG setting in it will Dominaria, it just has the bigger market/fan base and it's just too core to the MtG setting and identity not to do.

I am curious what kind of fiction the Brother's War set will have given it is a card set for a story that has already been told (in a novel by FR's own Jeff Grubbs that I hear is one of the best in MtG history), unlike all the rest of the sets with a particular setting next year. Maybe they will do some fiction for Unfinity and Battle For Baldur's Gate or extra fiction for Dominaria United instead.

Now that I've spent my time in this thread arguing against speculation, I'm going to do some speculating too, though perhaps less of the tangential kind:

I highly doubt we're getting Kamigawa. That's another Oriental Adventures quagmire waiting to happen. It was written by White guys, for an American card game. It's a bag of worms they're not going to open up any time soon, as cool as some of the concepts were.

Also, Moonfolk can already be modeled with Haregon, so the main character option draw to that setting is already in the game as is.

 

[Parmandur]

Now that I've spent my time in this thread arguing against speculation, I'm going to do some speculating too, though perhaps less of the tangential kind:

I highly doubt we're getting Kamigawa. That's another Oriental Adventures quagmire waiting to happen. It was written by White guys, for an American card game. It's a bag of worms they're not going to open up any time soon, as cool as some of the concepts were.

Also, Moonfolk can already be modeled with Haregon, so the main character option draw to that setting is already in the game as is.

Talking about the new version of the Setti g coming put in a couple months.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

infer

You mean imply.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

And Kamigawa brings some cool ideas with magic cyberpunk.

This sounds really interesting, and given WotC is clearly interested in pushing D&D in new directions, quite plausible.

I highly doubt we're getting Kamigawa. That's another Oriental Adventures quagmire waiting to happen. It was written by White guys, for an American card game. It's a bag of worms they're not going to open up any time soon, as cool as some of the concepts were.

I'm sure WotC has had it's cultural consultants working overtime on the upcoming MtG set. No worries in that department.

Of course there will also be a Summer Adventure in time for summer to end in Septemeber like usual.

This is an important point. Adventure-Writer-in-Chief Chris Perkins must be working on something, and Netherdeep isn't his. My guess is it will be FR - something more conventional to balance the wild and wacky stuff that has been coming out. I also think it will involve at least one of the new surface drow cities - why add them to the lore if you aren't going to do anything with them? I also think it will be set a long way from the Sword Coast - I suspect "orcs on the other side of Faerun have a different culture" was more than just a hypothetical. I think the antipodes of the Sword Coast is in Kara-Tur, but that is probably too literal. I'll settle for "a long way away".

In terms of number of books, it's worth noting that Monsters of the Multiverse is a delayed 2021 book, and therefore doesn't count.

 

[Marandahir]

Talking about the new version of the Setti g coming put in a couple months.

There's a new version of Kamigawa coming? Is it actually written this time at least in part by people whose cultures it was appropriating?

This is news to me! I see now the Neon Dynasty set coming this first quarter of 2022.

That makes Kamigawa significantly more likely for the 2022 MtG book, though again, would be interested to learn more about the setting designers and who they have on staff for writing/editing/cultural consulting etc.

I also wouldn't be surprised if New Capenna (Q2) was designed as a whole new Magic world to tie-in with D&D, much like Strixhaven was.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Okay, I've had another look at the map an Osse is actually on the opposite side of the world to the Sword Coast. Aussie orcs - what could possibly go wrong!

 

[Parmandur]

There's a new version of Kamigawa coming? Is it actually written this time at least in part by people whose cultures it was appropriating?

This is news to me! I see now the Neon Dynasty set coming this first quarter of 2022.

That makes Kamigawa significantly more likely for the 2022 MtG book, though again, would be interested to learn more about the setting designers and who they have on staff for writing/editing/cultural consulting etc.

I also wouldn't be surprised if New Capenna (Q2) was designed as a whole new Magic world to tie-in with D&D, much like Strixhaven was.

Yeah, I dunno how well that will shake out, but new Kamigawa does seem a ripe possibility. New Capenna is hard to say, since we know so little about it, but after the Strixhaven book WotC might well do anything.

 

[bedir than]

In terms of number of books, it's worth noting that Monsters of the Multiverse is a delayed 2021 book, and therefore doesn't count.

I love the continued "this book doesn't count." by the end of 2022 WotC will have either published zero books are like a half-dozen, and both groups will be right within their own head space.
Hasbro will consider it the larger number, not zero, as they'll be making tens of millions of dollars on books that ENWorld posters insist don't count.