D&D 5E Revisited Setting News: Its not the 2023 Classic setting, but rather for 2024

[eyeheartawk]

I've always been more interested in the "real" FR that Greenwood himself uses. The original 1st ed boxed set probably most closely resembles this. He's talked about it before and how it's basically nothing like the current iteration where Wizard's just does a big boo-boo to explain Dragonborn and magic changes and then undoes them etc etc. Those Realms sound interesting.

 

[Marandahir]

The majority is/was homebrew.

Sorry, I think I misspoke my point. Even if homebrew is the majority, among settings, Forgotten Realms has always seemed to sell. I'm in the minority of disliking FR as a setting, if I'm considered someone in a set of people who will buy campaign settings (I like Dark Sun, I like Eberron, I like the M:tG settings, I like Nerath, but I don't like FR).

 

[Marandahir]

I've always been more interested in the "real" FR that Greenwood himself uses. The original 1st ed boxed set probably most closely resembles this. He's talked about it before and how it's basically nothing like the current iteration where Wizard's just does a big boo-boo to explain Dragonborn and magic changes and then undoes them etc etc. Those Realms sound interesting.

I liked the 4e changes. Wish they hadn't just rolled them back and acted like the last century didn't happen, and hey look, Minsc and Boo are still alive too, for …reasons. But I recognise I'm in the minority there.

I thought it breathed life into a setting that was stagnating too much, and it let the setting bring in good ideas that 4e had.

Still, I agree with you, would love to see Greenwood's homebrew take on a world-wide gazeteer that doesn't force compatibility of lore with 5e's books (a la Keith Baker's Exploring Eberron). Mechanically compatible, but the lore doesn't necessarily match. That's Keith's Eberron, not WotC's.

 

[eyeheartawk]

I liked the 4e changes. Wish they hadn't just rolled them back and acted like the last century didn't happen, and hey look, Minsc and Boo are still alive too, for …reasons. But I recognise I'm in the minority there.

I thought it breathed life into a setting that was stagnating too much, and it let the setting bring in good ideas that 4e had.

Still, I agree with you, would love to see Greenwood's homebrew take on a world-wide gazeteer that doesn't force compatibility of lore with 5e's books (a la Keith Baker's Exploring Eberron). Mechanically compatible, but the lore doesn't necessarily match. That's Keith's Eberron, not WotC's.

Yeah, and to be clear, I wasn't picking on the 4e/5e version specifically. I'm pretty sure that it's been a very different corporate top-down run decision making process on what does or doesn't happen in the Realms probably since the release of that first box set. Even by second edition I think it was already quite different and third as well.

 

[Demetrios1453]

I can agree with that sentiment. Though, Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft doesn't fall into this category. Imagine if they made that level of changes to a really popular setting like FR.

They do that all the time for FR, to the point its become a meme.

 

[Remathilis]

WotC afraid of dark? My last game I ran a little grey skinned girl who wears a putrid pigs face for a mask, and eats human flesh. A WotC creation. From their wimsical adventure Witchlight.

And we just got a huge fantastic Thay book from Ed Greenwood his very self. And frankly it’s amazing. Note that these are so official WotC changed the map of candle keep to match a brand new commissioned piece from the Ed Greenwood DMsGuild Candlekeep book. They themselves commissioned brand new cartography to boot. (Btw you should really get that DMsGuild Candlekeep book).

And I agree, if they open Greyhawk to the guild it’ll be amazing.

Though I think they should open prior editions too, especially if Luke can get access to write for Greyhawk

It's not that Wizards is afraid of dark, it's that they are shying away from the "grim" part. They don't mind doing dark settings like Ravenloft, but they don't seem too keen on the kinda prejudice, isolationism, random violence, fatalism, and other -isms that grim settings tend to emphasize. WotC isn't making a GoT type setting, and they're certainly not making it their default setting.

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

I'd be pretty happy with this as a release schedule. I suspect we'll see more of these hybridized "modulesettings"- Dragonlance would, I think, lend itself very well to that sort of product.

So....
2022: Spelljammer (my guess is it will be a modulesetting like Strixhaven)
2022: Dragonlance
2023: Dark Sun
2024: Forgotten Realms revised; with some cleaned-up lore regarding races and such.

 

[Parmandur]

Aren't those soul coins? I don't think I own it (I forget what I've purchased digitally sometimes), but I remember reading a review where someone was disturbed by the idea of using souls top power play "fun."

That pushed things a bit to the edge.

 

[darjr]

I had players in a game REFUSE to use soul coins and released every single one they came across. Even went after otherwise neutral NPCs to do so. That game was wild.

 

[eyeheartawk]

I always considered Descent into Avernus a worse copy of Inferno Road. More than a couple similarities. So I never really paid it much attention.