D&D 5E Greyhawk: Why We Need Mo' Oerth by 2024

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
It is pretty effective, actually. Detailing a region with a central theme (Waterdeep and urban adventure, Icewind Dale and freezing your butt off, etc.) is pretty good for creating Adventuring sabdboxes.
I don't use premade adventure paths, though. Buying them would mean spending a chunk of money on a mostly wasted product. I'm not going to do that and it's not wrong of me to balk at it and expect that setting information be put out in a setting book.
 

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Parmandur

Book-Friend
I don't use premade adventure paths, though. Buying them would mean spending a chunk of money on a mostly wasted product. I'm not going to do that and it's not wrong of me to balk at it and expect that setting information be put out in a setting book.
Wrong, no, but as a product strategy it works for WotC, and is handy to have in play.
 




Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
They aren't exclusively setting books. Or primarily setting books.

They are books which provide details about the setting. WotC considers them setting support, and I certainly do too.
They aren't setting books OR support, no matter what WotC considers them. Their primary purpose is the big multi-level adventure. What other information in them supports that adventure, not the campaign setting. WotC is deluding itself if it thinks people are going to buy those books only for the bit of setting info that they contain. Those books could be considered setting support if people were reasonably buying them only for the setting portion that those books contain. It isn't reasonable to do that, though. It's throwing most of the money spent on the adventure in the trash to do that.
 


Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Compared to NOT having a big adventure book providing details about a given setting, they are support.
That's exactly my point. I DON'T have a big adventure book providing a few details about the setting. Why? Because I don't use big adventures and it would be throwing money in the trash to buy it. The meager setting details in them aren't worth paying full retail price to get, and it's unreasonable for WotC to expect that I would do so. Further, having a few setting details spread out over several books rather many setting details in one or two setting books is a piss poor way to organize a setting.

There can be no assumption that people are going to buy adventures to get the setting info, so the comparison is really not having a big adventure book providing details about a given setting vs. not having a big adventure book providing details about a given setting. They can only be support if it can be assumed that you will have them along side the SCAG.
 

I would tend to agree with @Maxperson , à setting book contains setting stuff. Not adventure or at most a sample to give a taste of how the setting works.

An adventure contains... well adventure(s) and a bit of background story pertaining to the adventure but rarely something more as we are seeing in the recents adventures from WotC.
 


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