D&D 5E Greyhawk: Why We Need Mo' Oerth by 2024

[Maxperson]

Looking back to 1E or 2E, most of the Forgotten Realms support was in region books, which provided similar coverage to what Descent to Avernus or Icewind Dale provide now. FR has one general book, and 7 meaty regional supplements (Princes of the Apocalypse, Out of the Abyss, Storm King's Thunder, Tomb of Annihilation, Waterdeep, Baldur's Gate, and Icewind Dale). Those 7 books each provide a heavy dosage of Setting material, each enough to fuel years of play.

Not exactly. They were region books that provided more setting content than 5e adventures and didn't have wasted adventure space that I wouldn't use. I wasn't paying for a book that I wouldn't be using 80-90% of.

 

[Maxperson]

Something to consider:

You can still get just about ALL the macro setting stuff (which is barely edition dependent) for Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms on DMs guild (generally $10 or less) so unless it's truly fresh take, why would they bother with the Macro setting stuff? You'll note the new settings (Tal Dore, Ravnica) did get setting books.

A lot of DMs guild stuff isn't physical or the same quality as what I get from a 5e hardcover.

 

[James Gasik]

And while it only covered a few major cities outside of the Heartlands, Forgotten Realms Adventures is an excellent resource for playing in the Realms, to this day one of my all time favorite books.

It's cool that big adventures give details about regions, but an overview of a setting would be really nice. Or even something like the grey box, which not only provided that overview in great detail, but also had adventures!

I'm with Maxperson here, I want more of a setting than "here's one coast of a continent, and if you want more, well, buy these adventures!".

Some people want adventures and can make up their own setting info.

Other people want setting info and can make up their own adventures.

I don't see why WotC can't support both types of DM's.

 

[Mort]

A lot of DMs guild stuff isn't physical or the same quality as what I get from a 5e hardcover.

Yes, a definite consideration.

I'm biased on that front because 1) I HAVE most of the early stuff (certainly if it's Greyhawk) and 2) I'm running out of physical display space so tend to get the electronic versions of supplements unless I REALLY like the artwork etc.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Some actual setting books would be nice.

Books with focus at all would be nice.

 

[Helldritch]

Yes, a definite consideration.

I'm biased on that front because 1) I HAVE most of the early stuff (certainly if it's Greyhawk) and 2) I'm running out of physical display space so tend to get the electronic versions of supplements unless I REALLY like the artwork etc.

Are you me?
I bought every single PDF of GH exactly because of that. I have just about everything (even Fate if Istus...) So having the PDF for me was very important as I do not want to wear down my physical copies of books I can't find anymore.

 

[Mort]

Are you me?
I bought every single PDF of GH exactly because of that. I have just about everything (even Fate if Istus...) So having the PDF for me was very important as I do not want to wear down my physical copies of books I can't find anymore.

Yeah, I loaded up on the old digital supplements for that reason AND really loaded up when the pandemic hit since we moved to Zoom/Roll20.

 

[Maxperson]

Yes, a definite consideration.

I'm biased on that front because 1) I HAVE most of the early stuff (certainly if it's Greyhawk) and 2) I'm running out of physical display space so tend to get the electronic versions of supplements unless I REALLY like the artwork etc.

I hate PDFs except when I'm prepping. For game play I use the physical copies that I have. If a product doesn't have a hard copy, I almost never buy it.

 

[Demetrios1453]

Looking back to 1E or 2E, most of the Forgotten Realms support was in region books, which provided similar coverage to what Descent to Avernus or Icewind Dale provide now. FR has one general book, and 7 meaty regional supplements (Princes of the Apocalypse, Out of the Abyss, Storm King's Thunder, Tomb of Annihilation, Waterdeep, Baldur's Gate, and Icewind Dale). Those 7 books each provide a heavy dosage of Setting material, each enough to fuel years of play.

They weren't similar in extent to 5e products - 2e regional books would cover a much wider area, with more pages being solely dedicated to setting info. The only ones that were similar were the Waterdeep books, as both 2e and 5e cover a single city, and Chult.

The main thing is that it would be nice to break free from the northwesternmost eighth of the setting and see other regions. That's only been done with Chult so far, and it would be nice to see popular regions like Cormyr and the Dalelands start getting coverage too...

 

[MichaelSomething]

What Greyhawk needs is a Magic The Gathering set!