A critique and review of the Fighter class

[lingual]

Does anything about the Monk class make sense? The DMG even has a hidden rule limiting even the Grand Master of Flowers to being unable to stun or kill a creature that is taller than 9' 2" and weighing more than 1100 pounds! You know, like a lot of high level opponents!

Don't forget that every level after 6, they had a 50/50 chance to basically lose a level!

 

[James Gasik]

Don't forget that every level after 6, they had a 50/50 chance to basically lose a level!

Yeah but the Druid had a similar problem, and at least Gary was straight up about that. Assassin poison use, on the other hand...

 

[Garthanos]

@James Gasik

Dont recall that utility?
" used my minor action to use an Intimidate Utility power to give all enemies -5 "

 

[James Gasik]

I thought it required Intimidate, but it might not. It's called Glowering Threat, a level 2 Utility Power. Minor action, close burst 2, enemies affected take -5 to attack rolls that do not target you until your next turn. It was printed in Heroes of the Fallen Lands.

 

[Garthanos]

I thought it required Intimidate, but it might not. It's called Glowering Threat, a level 2 Utility Power. Minor action, close burst 2, enemies affected take -5. to attack rolls that do not target you until your next turn. It was printed in Heroes of the Fallen Lands.

An essentials power of course

 

[James Gasik]

Once it hit the character builder, it was fair game for everyone, lol.

 

[Garthanos]

Once it hit the character builder, it was fair game for everyone, lol.

Well everything is core, and there was a tool in Character builder for excluding specific sources if one wanted.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I like the idea of a big AOE mark

 

[James Gasik]

I like the idea of a big AOE mark

Which is what I used my, otherwise silly, dragonfear for. The Utility was nice because it works with marking (or the pseudo-marking of the Knight). I wouldn't normally stack them like I did in the example, but it was a pretty extreme fight with lots of moving parts.

SIDE NOTE: one of the real problems I had with playing a Defender is the fact that most of the Defender mechanics were fairly conservative. Like that somehow, the fact you got big HP and AC meant your control elements had to be toned down. But a well-built Controller could lock down the table even more effectively, to where enemies couldn't attack at all, where a class like the Fighter had to work just to Mark more than one opponent into a Catch-22 situation. The Paladin had better multi-marking, but the penalty for violating their mark was usually a little radiant damage that big monsters didn't seem to care about.

I once played a Seeker (well, to be fair, a hybrid Seeker/Cleric), likely one of the weakest Controllers, and I still had a Daily ability that completely trivialized a big Solo fight beyond anything a Fighter could do.

Heck, my Ranger could reduce a Solo to a prone, slowed, dazed, and stunned mess. Clerics, mind, a Leader class, had an AoE Daze Encounter Power you could get early on. As much as I liked playing Defenders, and miss them a great deal, they had little that could compare to how other classes could do.

Sure, Garthanos, you could exclude all Essentials content from your game, but I'm not sure why you'd want to. It came with some nice Feats as well, rewarding you for using particular weapons, and some better "math fixes" for Non-Armor Defenses.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

DE NOTE: one of the real problems I had with playing a Defender is the fact that most of the Defender mechanics were fairly conservative.

this is a big pet peeve of how 5e turned out... 4e needed work, and that work was scrapped to go backwards.