D&D 5E Toxicity in the Fandom

[Irlo]

And yes, if your feelings/fee-fees can be hurt by what someone says about a subject you like on the internet, then you really should rethink whether engaging in dialogue with anyone online is for you. I should think it is not worth the blood pressure issues.

One can recognize behavior as disrespectful and dismissive without having their feelings hurt.

 

[Vaalingrade]

On the bright side, I got Bingo for 'It's just a joke, bro'.

 

[Faolyn]

I really felt for Boyega as he is a very talented actor and the movies just... threw Finn's character out the window. Well, I think we have Ryan Johnson to blame for most of it, but JJ Abrams is not spotless either.
The first movie almost immediately forgets that Finn was a kid who was kidnapped from his parents and basically turned into a Jannissary -style child soldier to fight for the First Order. We never get an explanation how he broke his mental conditioning, and a few hours after turning, he is gunning down his fellow stormtroopers without an ounce of regret. Then the movie hints at him maybe being force sensitive, they show his devotion and love to Rey, and... all these are thrown by the wayside and the sequels use him as a comedic character and saddle him with another love interest whom he really does not seem to be into.
When in the third movie he spends the whole movie trying to say something to Rey, I assumed it was that he loves her, but NOPE!
Talk about such a major waste of a character. The closest he has come to having an arc was in a deleted scene where he actually turns some of his fellow stormtroopers against Phasma.

This is why I still haven't seen the third sequel movie (well, that and when I asked a friend how it was, he paused for a moment and then said, "the music was really good"). When Finn popped up in the trailer for TFA, my first thought was "huh, he's not a clone" and I wanted to learn more. There was an old ad for Star Wars d20 back in Dragon Mag that had a scene from one of the original movies with an arrow pointing at a random stormtrooper and the caption "What's His Story?" and that always stuck with me. I wanted to know Finn's story.

Then the second movie came out and Finn was shoved to the side and given a really boring and pointless scene and it just made me lose all interest in the franchise.

 

[Raunalyn]

Sorry, but, being racist is toxic. It's not a buzzword. It means exactly what it says on the tin. It's not hard to understand. Lots of different behavior is toxic. Being pretty much any 'ist is toxic - sexist, racist, whatever.

You know what else is toxic? Accusing someone of being any of the 'ist epithets simply because you didn't take their argument at face value and ascribed all sorts of motives and assumptions to what they were saying. Or because you disagree with what they are saying.

 

[Faolyn]

Let's stop using invented buzzwords like "toxic" and instead call this what it really is: "flaming and trolling."

Flaming is being rude to a specific person for whatever reason.

Trolling is trying to bait general people into becoming angry.

Toxicity is trying to turn the fandom (or whatever) into something that is "toxic" for everyone who does not fit your particular ideal.

They're quite different.

 

[Irlo]

Flaming is being rude to a specific person for whatever reason.

Trolling is trying to bait general people into becoming angry.

Toxicity is trying to turn the fandom (or whatever) into something that is "toxic" for everyone who does not fit your particular ideal.

They're quite different.

I wasn't clear that I was being sarcastic.

 

[Faolyn]

I wasn't clear that I was being sarcastic.

Sorry!

 

[Irlo]

Sorry!

My fault.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Then the second movie came out and Finn was shoved to the side and given a really boring and pointless scene and it just made me lose all interest in the franchise.

They did him so dirty.

I'm not particularly mad at him being tossed into a side plot because there was no main plot and nothing but side plots, but I got real annoy that they made him inexplicably suicidal and then every edgelord critic on the internet got mad he didn't die. Because death is the only thing of value in 'art'.

There is no trope I respect less aside from Fridging than the Heroic Sacrifice.

 

[Mind of tempest]

They did him so dirty.

I'm not particularly mad at him being tossed into a side plot because there was no main plot and nothing but side plots, but I got real annoy that they made him inexplicably suicidal and then every edgelord critic on the internet got mad he didn't die. Because death is the only thing of value in 'art'.

There is no trope I respect less aside from Fridging than the Heroic Sacrifice.

heroic sacrifice done badly is terrible and senseless, when done well it can add a lot but it is not something you rush, plus in fantasy, you can pull a Gandalf the white if you need to.