D&D 5E Is 5E Special

[EzekielRaiden]

Did thst better for you, absolutely. But thst is hardly a universal experience. 5E has some serious advantages, such as natural.language design.

Oh God, don't even get me started on the flaws of "natural language design." That was one of the few outright openly BAD things 5e tried for. And they didn't even succeed! 5e is still FULL of jargon terms all over the place. Consider the incredible over-loading of the word "action," or "level."

Yes, if a 20qr Ranger and a 2024 can play in the same party and encounter monsters from vote 2014 and 2024 without the math breaking, that is complete compatibility in my book.

Then "completely compatible" means very little as you define it.

 

[Minigiant]

Did thst better for you, absolutely. But thst is hardly a universal experience. 5E has some serious advantages, such as natural.language design.

4e Esseentials has serious advatages too. Like It actually tells you how to run and build a viable PC and how to run and build an adventure at multiple tiers.

glares at useless DMG on bookshelf

 

[Parmandur]

Oh God, don't even get me started on the flaws of "natural language design." That was one of the few outright openly BAD things 5e tried for. And they didn't even succeed! 5e is still FULL of jargon terms all over the place. Consider the incredible over-loading of the word "action," or "level."

I would definitely cite that as a major part of the success of the edition, frankly. 5E books are pleasure reads, not chores, and theybhabe to make mechanics pretty straightforward to work in that framework.

 

[Parmandur]

4e Esseentials has serious advatages too. Like It actually tells you how to run and build a viable PC and how to run and build an adventure at multiple tiers.

glares at useless DMG on bookshelf

How to.build a viable PC in 5E:

Don't multiclass. Then you should be fine.

 

[Minigiant]

How to.build a viable PC in 5E:

Don't multiclass. Then you should be fine.

monk

 

[Parmandur]

monk

All Monks are perfectly viable.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

I would definitely cite that as a major part of the success of the edition, frankly. 5E books are pleasure reads, not chores, and theybhabe to make mechanics pretty straightforward to work in that framework.

Making a book a pleasure to read has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with whether it uses "natural language" in its actual rules-text or not.

 

[Minigiant]

All Monks are perfectly viable.

Monk can be viable.
You need system mastery or the class kinda sucks at everything.

Natural language is not a valid replacement for instructions and advice in a guidebook, manual, or handbook.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I never said it was pure luck.

My response was not to you IIRC.
But maybe it was. This converstaion made so many circles, I lost track at some point.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

How to.build a viable PC in 5E:

Don't multiclass. Then you should be fine.

Or multiclass. Still works out most of the time.