D&D 5E I still want D&D and Beyond, but...

[bedir than]

WotC is a division of Hasbro. Both are managed by executives with no RPG industry experience.

How does Chris Cocks have no RPG industry experience? How does Nathan Stewart have no RPG experience? Be specific

 

[wingsandsword]

How does Chris Cocks have no RPG industry experience? How does Nathan Stewart have no RPG experience? Be specific

Neither Chris Cocks nor Nathan Stewart isn't the head of WotC, Cynthia Williams is. . .who came to Hasbro from Microsoft where she worked on the XBox for a while, but before that she was an executive at Amazon for over a decade.

Nothing on Ms. Williams resume says anything about prior tabletop gaming experience. Some experience managing the XBox division of Microsoft isn't even remotely related.

 

[bedir than]

Neither Chris Cocks nor Nathan Stewart isn't the head of WotC, Cynthia Williams is. . .who came to Hasbro from Microsoft where she worked on the XBox for a while, but before that she was an executive at Amazon for over a decade.

Nothing on Ms. Williams resume says anything about prior tabletop gaming experience. Some experience managing the XBox division of Microsoft isn't even remotely related.

In no multi-billion dollar company, Musk-ys aside, does a single individual make a decision like this. Cocks, Stewart and Winninger's replacement would all be part of the decision. All are RPG people.

 

[dave2008]

The language they used doesn't indicate that 1.0a is changing. They, in fact, said the opposite.

The OGL 1.0a isn't changing (it can't), but I agree the recent statement still reads to me like WotC wants to de-authorize it with the new OGL. Stuff publish previously to the OGL 2.0 is fine, but nothing after that. The fact that they specifically didn't mention that controversy, while addressing the others implies to me that it is still their plan. Hopefully that is changed in the next draft.

 

[bedir than]

The OGL 1.0a isn't changing (it can't), but I agree the recent statement still reads to me like WotC wants to de-authorize it with the new OGL. Stuff publish previously to the OGL 2.0 is fine, but nothing after that. The fact that they specifically didn't mention that controversy, while addressing the others implies to me that it is still their plan. Hopefully that is changed in the next draft.

Even if I grant you this, and I'm not.

That's not de-authorization that results in every Paizo product now being illegal (and 100s of other companies). It's not the same and suggesting that "you can't use this in the future" is the same as "everything you did in the past is no longer legal" are the same thing is bewildering

 

[dave2008]

Even if I grant you this, and I'm not.

I am not granting it either. However, WotC didn't close the door in their last statement, so it is possible

That's not de-authorization that results in every Paizo product now being illegal (and 100s of other companies).

I was not suggesting that. My point is that it would mean they couldn't use the OGL 1.0a on future PF products.

It's not the same and suggesting that "you can't use this in the future" is the same as "everything you did in the past is no longer legal" are the same thing is bewildering

That is not what I was suggesting. Where did you get that from?

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Even if I grant you this, and I'm not.

That's not de-authorization that results in every Paizo product now being illegal (and 100s of other companies). It's not the same and suggesting that "you can't use this in the future" is the same as "everything you did in the past is no longer legal" are the same thing is bewildering

Nothing that @dave2008 indicates he's saying that, and indeed his understanding seems to be correct, so I'm not sure where you're getting this from.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

How does Chris Cocks have no RPG industry experience? How does Nathan Stewart have no RPG experience? Be specific

Chris Cocks had absolutely no RPG industry experience prior to becoming president of WotC 5 years ago. Current decision-making by him suggests he didn't learn anything about D&D in that period.

Not sure why you're focusing on Nathan Stewart, seems like a distraction given he was only VP of D&D very briefly and his career more about marketing than anything else - it seems very unlikely he's been closely involved with this decison-making.

Dan Rawson is VP of D&D, and he definitely has no RPG (or similar) experience.

 

[collin]

Neither Chris Cocks nor Nathan Stewart isn't the head of WotC, Cynthia Williams is. . .who came to Hasbro from Microsoft where she worked on the XBox for a while, but before that she was an executive at Amazon for over a decade.

Nothing on Ms. Williams resume says anything about prior tabletop gaming experience. Some experience managing the XBox division of Microsoft isn't even remotely related.

When Cynthia Williams starts having WotC selling cross-stitch and crochet kits, then I'll know the D&D party is over and call it a day.

 

[bedir than]

I am not granting it either. However, WotC didn't close the door in their last statement, so it is possible

I was not suggesting that. My point is that it would mean they couldn't use the OGL 1.0a on future PF products.

That is not what I was suggesting. Where did you get that from?

That's what de-auth does. If that doesn't happen then there's no de-auth